Phil Spector dead at 81

Don’t get me wrong, I love the Beatles too, and Let it Be is certainly not a bad album — but in the pantheon of Beatles albums it’s far from their best.

Have you listened to The Beach Boys’ output of the same period? You might change your mind. There was a serious creative rivalry between the two groups that produced some God tier music on both sides.

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He caught it on a Monday and his heart stood still
Somebody told me that his name was Phil

Sorry not sorry

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I saw Phil a few weeks ago, looked so much younger.

But that was in Easy Rider.

Somehow that role seemed to be insight into his life.

“Hello Down There” is a 1969 comedy I think aimed at kids. Roddy McDowall plays a record producer that I’ve assumed is a take on Phil.

Don’t forget Tom Wolfe did a profile on Phil, though I can’t remember which book it’s collected in.

In 2019 I finally got the Christmas album. The wall of sound is strong, but it wasn’t anything great. I’m not sure if I’d just heard too many songs from it that it made little impression, or maybe the hype was too big.

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I’m always half puzzled when people agonise over how to separate the art from the monster. Cuz, like… you just separate them. I mean, we all love the wheel, and I don’t see as it’d add much to know the name of its undoubtedly problematic creator.

Now that this jerk is dead, and can’t contribute anything further, it barely even matters who produced Da Doo Ron Ron. If Phil Spector were a better person then it might be a nice gesture to treat it as a memorial to him; but he wasn’t, and we don’t have to.

Not to mention, he didn’t make anything on his own anyway. For all we know, his only real contribution was to force performances out of talented people by waving a gun at them, which I’m not sure even counts as an achievement.

tl;dr: Phil who?

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Maybe Phil could have asked Mexico to pay for it?

Loved his cameo in Easy Rider.

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Although that headline expresses no opinion on whether he committed the murder. I think that even in the UK, after people are convicted, you can call them “murderer” without danger of libel. That’s generally when the press drops “alleged” in the US.

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Liberal outrage, and the fact that his “base” loves it is arguably how he became president. Like many megachurch preachers, the reason he has so many followers is that he put on every appearance of hating the same people they do.

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The original BBC headline just referred to him as “…Flawed…”, with no mention of his crime. I don’t the problem is fear of libel some much as unwillingness to acknowledge his crime. The body of the article did discuss the crime and other allegations of abusive behaviour. Headline writer probably not the same person?

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Headline doesn’t have to tell the whole story. From the perspective of the BBC, the “flawed” label might have been enough to draw the reader into the body of the story.

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along the way, this review deconstructs the notion of genius.

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He looks a bit elfy in that photo. Perhaps he was always a shitty Leprechaun or a Pooka. That would explain a lot of his weird behavior.

That’s kind of a big thing there from a moral perspective. What separates a human being from a sociopath.

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Who knew so much evil could be contained in such a handsome vessel.

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Yeah, I mean, I’m definitely sympathetic to the idea that you take what’s good from the art and throw the bad person in the trash.

That said, though, another little silver lining of good artists turning out to be bad people is that it forces you to take your fanboi glasses off. Like, I’m not saying Woody Allen wasn’t a talented writer and director, but JESUS FUCKING CHRIST was his work in need of a reconsideration. It would have happened within 50 years no matter what, but now it’s happening earlier. And all the shitty half-baked movies he crapped out year after year, while waiting for inspiration to strike, that got called “minor gems” by star-struck reviewers, can be seen for the schlock they are.

Spector being a literal murderer can’t make up for all the shit he flung at the people he worked with, but at least it reminds us that the Ronettes and the Ramones and everyone else weren’t just passive lumps of clay that he worked his magic on.

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I’m 99% sure he was on my old unit at his end time (small possibility he didn’t end up in my hospital in San joaquin county - very very small possibility). My old unit is running 5:1 icu patients (5 icu patients per nurse (usually 2:1)) so he probably didn’t have the best care (just sayin’). I’m gonna refrain (ha!) from saying I hope he had a good long chance to atone but seriously christ what an asshole.

Lana Clarkson, the woman he murdered, would have turned 59 this year.

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And we’re sure that’s a mugshot and not a postmortem photo?

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Wow, I guess he went bald and turned into Gollum in prison.

Probably died from old age at 81 (ETA, NVM, COVID related). Glad he got locked up before he could hurt more people.

When I think of Phil Spector, I think of Sammy: