Does that mean we can have our âcool popeâ back, Xeni? >__<
Eh.
I donât know if thatâs what the Vatican said⌠simply that no position was offered by the Pope because they did not enter into a discussion.
What wasnât mentioned was that the Vatican embassy receiving line was a âclosed inviteâ receiving line. She was there because she was asked to be there.
I havenât seen her renounce her or anything though.
Wait, wait⌠does this mean a conservative made a public statement that wasnât strictly true? How can that be?
Quite possibly! Or she was told it was to be an off the record thing, and she took it on the record.
Nope sorry donât buy this fan club apologists making up conspiracies that make no sense story.
The Vatican conservatives set the pope up to make him look more conservative so that what would happen? What would they gain from this conspiracy. Wouldnât this just make him look better to the devout?
Maybe we just need to face the fact that while he is cool down to earth pope, he is still a pope.
reminded me of early Honey Huan
Even now I can believe he told Kim Davis to âstay strongâ.
Then again I believe he also told the unnamed Cuban dissident who ran up to the Popemobile to âstay strongâ. And that he told John Boehner to âstay strongâ. And that he told Obama to âstay strongâ.
Itâs a phrase I suspect gets handed out at least as often as rosaries.
So I guess the linkbait translation of â[the Popeâs] meeting with her should not be considered a form of support of her position in all of its particular and complex aspects,â is âI donât support homophobic civic layaboutâ.
I do not understand why this is such a controversy. The current Pope has been remarkably progressive at the same time being consistent to the core teachings of the church. As such it is no surprise, that he would at least meet with this woman.
Further, who would I most likely believe in this situation? The Pope.
I think that part of the job description for Pope is working closely with Homophobes, even if you donât plan on personally prioritizing that agenda. I could totally see even âcool popeâ telling someone to follow their conscience and stay strong, but she could follow her conscience and stay strong in her faith and also obey the law if sheâd just resign from the damn job sheâs already not doing
Guys, the Pope called gay marriage a âmachination of the Father of Lies.â. His tone is more progressive, now, but heâs still 100% against marriage equality.
So basically the American top Catholics duped the less conservative Pope to endorse Kim Davis?
It sounds to me like he didnât endorse her before, and didnât un-endorse her now. He just met with her, like everyone else.
Iâve talked to friends of mine in Canada, Britain, and elsewhere and Kim Davis literally isnât a blip on their radar outside of what Me and other Americans tell them. So the Pope nor his Handlers might not have realized an offhand âhey when life hands you lemons, beat people to death with the lemonsâ would give her enough to go on at how the Pope supports her and give the bum fifteen more minutes.
Re the Popes stance on equality: Admittedly he isnât supportive of homosexuality, but thatâs deep seated dogma going on and even if he personally might view a thing as a way he can only do so much so fast. He is far more progressive than we have had in the past, but like all people, the Pope isnât perfect.
Still, better than what we had.
The âgentlemanâs agreementâ that âIâm on your side really but canât publicly say soâ is never intended as a resource to be drawn upon until after the dust has settled. But some recipients of such gifts are simply too dumb to realise thatâs what it is, blab immediately, and thus earn the eternal contempt of the donor. These KD folk are political children. They shouldnât be allowed out without an accompanying adult.
Quite true.
I just wish people would figure this pope out. Heâs a nice guy, and he certainly wants people to be happy and in the light of Christ.
But he also is still the pope, and the position of the catholic church hasnât changed, and gay people will still burn in hell forever if they do gay people things, and Satan did bring about gay marriage as a way to destroy peopleâs souls.
Yes, heâs nicer acting⌠but his office sends out the nastygrams that no one reads long after the ânice popeâ story exits the media. His position is just like Benedictâs. Just heâs got a much better PR team.
Frankie & Benny - the ole Good Pope - Bad Pope double act.
His âpersonal viewâ is that gay marriage is part of Satanâs plan to corrupt humanity. His attempts to moderate the Churchâs tone and focus on helping the poor is admirable, but I think people are projecting their own views onto him. He might not support Davis flouting the law, but he certainly supports her convictions against same-sex marriage.
