Pope on Trump: "a person who thinks only about building walls… is not Christian"

Yeah, I get tired of writing the same name over and over again so I like to mix it up. Typically I am quoting obscurely or making easily misunderstood cultural references (e.g. “the White Christ”) because I am ornery that way.

Not only gaudy gold crap, but, I imagine, golf clubs and wind farms.

You might be surprised that Trump was anti wind farms, but my theory is that he just doesn’t like competition.

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Just the place for a load of refugees, then. Low population density, low unemployment - a few hundred refugees wouldn’t cause overcrowding and would give a boost to the economy.

(the population density at 840 for 27 hectares is around 3100 inhabitants per sq km. This compares with London (around 5000/sq km) or Taipei (15000). At London density Vatican City could absorb about 450 refugees, at Taipei density nearly 3000.

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If anybody posits Ann fucking Rice I will get up from my desk, race over to their house as fast as my wobbly legs and lungs will allow, and bop them on the nose with my tiny little fist.

 

 

… wobbly legs… tiny fists… prone to sudden fits of emotion… lengthy, insistent, but incomprehensible communications…

 

I do believe I’ve outed myself as a hyperactive toddler.

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Chuck Palahniuk and Tad Williams have recently written books about Hell (respectively, Damned/Doomed & The Bobby Dollar trilogy), if that counts.

Okay, let me just say that there’s nothing disgraceful about anyone questioning the faith of another human being based on their words and actions viewed in the light of the tenets of their purported faith.

And if anyone could do so carte blanche, it’d be a religious leader, particularly one within the faith in question.

The Donald continues to make no sense a-tall.

Also, “The Pope only heard one side of the story - he didn’t see the crime, the drug trafficking and the negative economic impacts the current policies have on the United States.”

Does this bumblefuck idiot not understand that the policies in question are US policies, not Mexican? Does he seriously not understand the the US is the big (+rich) kid on the block in this neighbourhood? Clearly not. Sadly too, given the choice to bash US policy & thus his competition, he chose to bash Mexicans instead for the racist vote.

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This made me want to listen to OK Computer.

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I finally got around to reading ACfL a couple of years ago after first reading about it in James Mitchener’s Space. I … liked it. The looping story arc was interesting, and I’m a bit of a tech nerd so the bootstrapping of civilisation was fun for me. I’ve heard that Wild Horse Woman kinda sucked though?

It’s a very different read from ACfL. And waaaaay longer. Takes place about 40-100 years after the middle piece? But I liked it a lot. YMMV.

Given the chance, I wonder how many Mexicans would vote to ban guns in the US and to stop their export to Mexico?

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C. S. Lewis, James Blish, Philip José Farmer (Father John Carmody series), and those are just some who work in a more-or-less Catholic vein…

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I found a pretty good Opus Dei article attacking the Gospel of Mary.

Are you sure you’re not indulging a tired Dan Brown fantasy?

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Trump and his followers are so obviously not Christians, it didn’t take a Pope to make that clear.

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:blink blink:

I’ll have to look up Father John Carmody.

Since PJF and religion mostly makes me think of “J.C. on the Dude Ranch”

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But, but, if they let refugees in, then they might be DAESH!!! IT’S JUST LIKE THE TRUMPINATOR SAID!!! /s

Also, some churches here in the US (not just Catholic, either) have indeed been taking in refugees from our own crisis on the southern border and sheltering them from ICE. So, there is no reason why the Vatican shouldn’t also act as a refugee sanctuary… The problem is that they are surrounded by Italy on all sides!

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Wow, struck a nerve, eh? I’m an ex-Catholic, and left over much less theologic reasons. I was never the kind who cared to debate about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, so your arguments and insults fail to impress me. Whatever I said was off the top of my head, and there are many more substantial arguments against the Catholic church.

No need to go to doctrine to make an argument against humans who claim to speak for God, or argue semantics about what to call organizations that enforce non-sensical rules and obedience on its members under threat of being kicked out of heaven.

The Vatican’s two parishes will take in a family of refugees each in the coming days, said Francis…
(Source, Sept. 2015)

While I’m certain that the Vatican could host more than two families, it’s also two more than I’m hosting…

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I don’t think the Vatican really has an economy outside of things like museum admissions and souvenirs.

True, I could host a family, too. The big difference is that you (or I) are not a major, globe spanning institution that has a rhetoric of care about humanity.

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Understood. It’s just why I couldn’t criticize any further than that.

Although, one family in every parish is not minor: when I first read that, I thought they meant within each parish,e.g. the (entire) parish serving Hamburg will take in one family. He meant each building where each parish has its HQ. Plus each monastery, each abbey etc.

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