Algebraic!
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Exactly! Because math can be hard ;)~
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Itâs dark and deeply weird --that kid show thing is pure veneer.
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Iâm provisionally in favor of pr0n that shows a sense of humor and style, and isnât just about silicone-injected women making fake O-faces.
My real issue is that putting Fionna and the Ice King in the same scene is totally non-canon.
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A quick message to almost everybody in this thread: Absolutely never Google ârule 34â.
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I have only one thing to say about this:
âOH MY GLOB!â
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Iâm guessing that a lot of people havenât been reading BoingBoing all that long, judging by the comments on this thread.
(Aside: I donât know why, but 99% of blogs that I run across, where itâs a guy who has committed to things like a year of reading women, they look like neckbeards BONUS: shames guys for watching a âgirlâs showâ by using âBronyâ as a pejorative)
Granted, given the timeframe of that blog post, itâs something you wonât find on BoingBoing anymore and was probably written by A Journalist Who Shall Not Be Named. Markâs posts, well, hey, I bust their balls about how their current layout will put âHip-Hop Family Treeâ right next to one of Cory or Markâs stories about feminism, but itâs a diverse group of people posting, it seems, more or less whatever they want.
Hint, guys: not everyone agrees that all pornographic material is harmful by default. There are women (and men) who work in porn who identify as feminists, porn where women arenât treated like dirt, porn where the people involved are enthusiastically consenting to sex. AndâŚitâs 2014. Not all consumers of porn are men, and not all consumers of porn are there to ogle women.
Having said that, I have my doubts about how feminist âDoctor Whore XXXâ is. âDid you ever notice how fish fingers and custard areâŚsexual?â Looks like pretty standard pornographic fare, if nerdy; the rest of whatâs there seems to be the usual icky stuff with ickier descriptions. When can I go looking for a couple having sex instead of seeingâforgive meâa slutâs hole destroyed?
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Well, crap. I can only click that lilâ heart once.
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Honestly, it takes a lot of work. Since tags and keywords like ârealâ or âcoupleâ or âwifeâ or âconsentingâ are all co-opted by the thousands of small-time producers paying two strangers picked up off the street to have sex on camera. The âprofessionalâ industry is very plastic and fake, and the ârealityâ industry is completely insincere and never really is what it says on the tin. If youâre really into that kind of porn, you might be interested to know there was a movement a while back where sex positive people were trying to co-opt the word âeroticaâ and re-define it as real couples having sex as partners, rather than âdudeâs rod wrecks slutâs bodâ
Also, Fionna shouldn´t be that skinny. The Ice King is pretty well cast.
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It also objectifies steamer trunks, animated squirrels, red vinyl sofas, cheap laminated flooring, and Ice Kings. Itâs sort of the nature of promotional photography, especially in porn. Where is your outrage on their behalf? Who will speak for the vinyl sofas?
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Hornies help horniesâŚalways
The old âWonât someone think of the children?!â argument. Good one.
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(Iâve been here long enough to figure that) Markâs just thinking every queen needs a king:
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There is a growing amount of sex-positive pornography now being produced. Porn is not fundamentally harmful so long as safe-sex and consent are intrinsic to the way it is produced and presented.
Theyâve been saying that for 30 years. But unless youâre looking for it by name, youâre not going to find the latest from Candida Royalle or Tristan Taormino on Xhamster, Motherless, or any of the other thousands of sites that collectively offer millions of hoursâ worth of free porn, online, 24/7. The overwhelming majority of porn is consumed online, for free - ask the companies who are still trying to sell DVD-based porn about their plummeting sales.
The notion that the on-demand funneling of everything from a straightforward gonzo fuck to sketchy Eastern European rape ârole playingâ thatâs damn-near indistinguishable from the real thing into the hormone-crazed eyeballs of a pubescent male brain doesnât have any effect on sexual development strikes me as naĂŻve at best. The image of a lab rat with a lever-activated cocaine drip comes to mind - thereâs basic reward system neurochemistry at play here.
The quaint nudity-as-a-mystery, found-a-stack-of-dadâs-Playboys initiation into sex via pornography is long gone. Modâren kids are more likely to see women shitting on each other before they see a soft-focused porn pictorial. And though I donât have any proof of this whatsoever, it is intuitively plausible - even likely - that the ugly thread of violent misogyny and casually sociopathic rape threats that seems to be woven throughout various online subcultures owes a lot to the pervasive availability of genuinely abusive, explicitly objectifying pornography. Even the responsible BDSM scene videos, which typically have prologues and epilogues demonstrating the smiling consent of the participants, become vile exemplars of abuse: tube sites present three or five minutes snippets of the scene, stripped of that context. While itâs great that Sasha Grey is an advocate for sex positivity and ethical industry practices, you canât tell me that a fapping 14-year old taking in three minutesâ worth of her performance in Anal Cavity Search 6 is thinking, âSafe, sane, and consensual!â
To dip another toe into the waters of irresponsible speculation: what happens when a generation of young men who grew up in an online world well-saturated with such imagery goes to college? Weâre finding out.
Weâre in the midst of a grand experiment. Think about it: human evolution developed for millions of years in the mode of other social primates, based on face to face interaction. Since the twentieth century weâve been tickling our visual and auditory senses with artificial imagery. 100 years or so, not even a fraction of an eyeblink on the evolutionary timescale. Social groups fragment, grow smaller, interaction online takes place via the printed wordâŚwe really have no idea what effects, both subtle and gross, all of that has on a developing individual primate brain, or what effects that will have on the development of social structures and interaction. Again, weâll find out. If weâre lucky, weâll develop new ways of interacting, new moral structures, and new behaviors. Maybe even new porn.
But just as a blanket âindictment of all pornographyâ is not the answer, neither is sweeping the potential harm of pervasive, sexually objectifying imagery under the rug of âsex positivityâ and mushy phrases like âIt is true that some, perhaps even a majority of porn, is produced and presented in a way which is harmful to women (and men).â
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I so badly want to say something about Jack Thompson and the NRA here.
Maybe theyâll be insatiable sex fiends, only able to be satisfied by the most depraved and disgusting practices ever conceived by man (not women, since women donât watch porn apparently).
Or theyâll be disinterested in going through the hassle of dating now that online porn is so good and so prevalent that it renders the female gender irrelevant except for video shoots and the human race goes extinct after a single generation.
Or theyâll be pretty much regular college men, trying to juggle studies, work, and dating. Opening their world to new experiences with willing partners. Maybe a little better informed than in generations past, but still making most of the same newbie mistakes that all teenage boys have made since the beginning of time.
Hand wringing over the effects of porn on young men is not new. People think itâs this crazy overpowering force, but thus far we have not seen the sort of collapse of civilization happen that the doomsayers keep predicting.
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Citations please.
Your are clearly claiming harm, but near as I can tell your arguments hold no more water than the those that claim âviolent video games cause school shootingsâ.
For instance do you have any evidence that college students of today are especially rapacious?
Sexual assaults on campus are getting more coverage and attention now (as they should). It continues to be a problem in dire need of remedy. That doesnât necessarily mean itâs happening more often. It could mean that victims are coming forward more often.
As we slowly erode the culture of âblame the victimâ, persons who experience sexual assault are becoming more vocal. Donât mistake that for a spike in sexual violence.
No doubt our culture has a long way to go when it comes to issues of misogyny. That said Iâm pretty sure the 1950s America experienced a lot more sexual violence. But since you couldnât even say the word âpregnantâ on TV it simply wasnât addressed and many suffered in silence.
Show me some stats indicating that sex crime is on the rise. Then show me a causative correlation between pornography and sexual violence.
Otherwise your rant is no more valid than the various pundits who have (without evidence) attacked various media as the cause of a perceived moral degradation.
Agreed. Itâs not like millennials invented sexual assault on university campuses. The only thing thatâs changed in the last 20 years on that front is that universities are just now being investigated for not handling reported cases as crimes. Reporting date rape has gone from being utterly pointless to report to slightly less than useless to report.
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Theyâre positively ravenous.
I look forward to a future wherein all forms of communication have been replaced by the porno parody. Please accept this copy of âE.T. Bone Homeâ as an expression of my extreme optimism.
