Yet somehow most modern nations manage to maintain military forces without enlisting armies of slaves.
I know we’re talking about a cartoonish fantasy universe but I think you’re cutting the Jedi and the Republic way too much slack here. If nothing else it would have made for richer storytelling if they’d at least explored the ethics of creating an entire race of human beings as laser fodder.
My real issue was with casting Adam Driver. He was so wrong for the role, since he looked nothing like either of the two who were supposed to be his parents.
I think he’s serviceable, no worse than the casting choices for Anakin. The real problem was the script/plot, even if they had gotten a much better casting it would’ve still ended up being wasted.
Wasn’t the droid army being used to support the separatists’ cause of leaving the Republic? So what about that cause makes them the assholes? It’s like if in the US Civil War the North wanted to secede from the South and the South resorted to using a slave army to preserve the union. Pretty clear which side of that conflict would be more in the wrong.
When the prequels came out Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher joked that something must have gone terribly wrong if a couple that attractive produced children who looked like them.
This is a good point. The Separatists motivations are never made very clear in the prequels. There was a lot of “they’re large nosed money grubbers so you should hate them” insinuation, but their grievances could have been totally valid. Maybe something like “the Jedi appear to be corrupted from the inside and also have for some reason taken over the military high command and there are rumors they’re building an extremely unethical army somewhere”.
A better movie might have had them try to explain their position to Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan instead of immediately locking them in a room and filling it with mostly ineffective poison gas and death robots.
They needed to do the thing so the movie would happen
Maybe if they had considered paying the clone troopers for their service? Probably had no budget left after commissioning the army in the first place, and all of the spacecraft to fly them around in.
How many plots in the Star Wars universe could have been foiled before they were ever started by competent accounting and auditing? It doesn’t even have to be some savant level numerical analysis here. Just someone asking where the trillions and trillions of spacebucks are going.
Did Palpatine pay for that clone army with cash? Was he flying in freighters worth of unmarked bills? There’s even a line in the second movie about how expensive the clones are.
Surely the Republic must have had some kind of existing military apparatus in place before the clone army showed up. Seems like the only reasonable thing to do would be
They’d already tried starting in the middle of the story, for “Episode 4”
which seemed to be a good idea and people liked it
but then they decided to go back to “the beginning,” the beginning of the beginning of the beginning, where by definition, as the narrative commences, nothing has happened yet and everything is very dull
I think the best take on the sequel trilogy was that each movie, by itself, was fine, and that it would have been really neat to see the other two movies in the trilogy that that movie was part of.
Absolutely!! Well, actually to be perfectly honest the second of the sequels made hyperspace work so differently from the rest of Star Wars that I’m not 100% sure that a great Star Wars trilogy could be built around it, but it could have been a good not-Star Wars movie.
I’m pretty sure those clones were not old enough to make choices of that consequence. What were they, like 8 or 10 years old, max? Enlisting child soldiers isn’t cool.
It has the best lightsaber battle of the saga! 
Nope. Episode 2, because they were able to bring Yoda into the fight. We have been waiting to see what kind of master warrior the little guy was for ages. Plus Christopher Lee
Tran’s character began interestingly enough for me, she was a normie but had a prominent voice for what’s right and wrong… a bit of a nobody becomes a hero arc. But the first problem is that they were already doing that story with both Rey and Finn. And then her peak moment comes when she stops Finn from his attack and I’m confused about the message being portrayed. Should the rest of the franchise have everyone hide out and die of old age instead of fighting for what they believe? Overall it feels like Disney didn’t know what that character was really for, other than to keep Finn alive and on the right path while Rey was unavailable to do so.
I’m not going to address the incel/misogynistic/racists and disney’s inability to manage diversity off screen. We already know about it and none of us have an answer.
Boyega’s character was a huge let down and I understand why he is pissed. He has the chops as an actor, Finn’s story was cool, and his conclusion could have been meaningful. But I think what ruined Finn’s potential, and the potential of the sequel trilogy, was the dull and disappointing plot line of Rey’s parents. Who are they??? They are (unconvincingly) nobody. Hey, palps is back and I guess he is your grandpa??? And of course this leads back to the problems of overall story continuity. Sometimes I felt like I was watching a five year old trying to tell me what the plot was, done in crayon and hanging on the fridge.
Here is the worst part about all of this… it is Rian Johnson’s movie that broke the continuity (yeah yeah, along with Disney management), but it is his movie that may be the most “star warsy” movie to come out since Return of the Jedi. Rian is very childlike himself and had the right understanding of what a star wars movie is supposed to be like. Makes me puke in my mouth to say it, but looking back I would have liked to see what he did with the entire sequel trilogy.
Heresy! (Although I always have hated Obi-Wan’s slicing-through of Maul at fight’s end, oy.) I will grant that Count Dooku’s lightsaber handle is rad, though! Perhaps . . . the raddest lightsaber handle of the saga!
“wars not make one great”
Yeah seeing him fight was a disappointment. I was expecting something qualitatively different from a lightsaber duel.
He fought like I would picture a Star Wars Street Fighter/Mortal Kombat style lightsaber fighting game would be like.
The Yoda character being slow and difficult to use, but with an insane combination of buttons pushed would unleash spinning jumping tiny doom to the other player.
“The Force does not belong to the Jedi” is one of the most important lines in the whole series
