And none of them responsible for the City of London itself, which has the only remaining municipal body where businesses get a vote, based on how many employees they have: in fact, the business vote outnumbers the residential vote.
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I don’t know if I would paint such an optimistic picture of the “defeat” of the UKIP. That is just an expected result of them achieving their primary goal. They won (or at least appear to have won) and there isn’t much need for their supporters to vote for them any more.
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As a lib dem (joined in the aftermath of the brexit vote), i don’t recognise the justification for your antipathy of the party. I’ve been incredibly impressed at their ongoing attempts to address serious issues in society and build sensible policy to that end.
You know, you are the first Brexiteer that I have ever run across in real life. I wasn’t sure your lot actually knew how to use computers or even visit the mainland!
All kidding aside, you honestly are the first Brit that I have met that seems in favour of the UK leaving the EU. And those that I know, well, they don’t know anyone who would admit to voting “leave”, much less vote for UKIP. My impression was that the referendum was treated as a joke and thus participation was low because not enough took it seriously.
EDIT: and please, don’t just post once and never again, that just makes you look like a paid shill. Come on, now: prove us all wrong! It will be fun!
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You might have been listening to caroline lucas, she’s the only green mp in parliament and pretty great so it was good to see them do well in the locals. She’s been campaigning for years to reform our archaic voting system and now pushing for us to get on board the green new deal.
Watching the results come in and the biggest loss for the tories for quite some years made me feel like the electorate isn’t entirely a lost cause just yet. Though that may entirely change when we have the eu elections in a few weeks and the turd that cannot be flushed resurfaces.
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Agreed, it’s overwhelmingly a bad idea that was only voted for because certain politicians lied and stirred up xenophobia to back the side they were sure couldn’t win, because the other side was being backed buy the guy whose job they wanted
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Oh my, thanks for explaining this, I had no idea…
“Though this be madness, yet there is method in 't.”
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Their supporters don’t feel like they have won yet, which is resulting in an epidemic of ultranationalists looking like they are about to have a heart attack or stroke.
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Here’s an interesting question - if it’s a Remain Parliament that’s stopping us from leaving, then does that make Jacob Ress-Mogg a Remainer? He voted against the deal repeatedly.
As did many other prominent Leavers. And most of the ERG, for that matter. In fact, part of the problem the deal has is that many of the long-term the Leave MPs just won’t vote for it.
They say that it’s not the Brexit that they want, but can’t agree on what that Brexit is amongst themselves. Perhaps they’ve been misleading people about how easy and great Brexit will be?
Who betrayed Brexit, if not the people who say it’ll be brilliant but then refuse to approve it on technicalities?
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I know, right?
And this is the simplified version of the story. There’s a whole heap of confusing additional bits that I didn’t go into for the sake of brevity and my sanity. If anyone’s really interested (you’re not, trust me), you can spend an hour or so looking it up on Wikipedia.
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For Yanks wanting to know what’s all going on with this Brexit stuff, this channel I think does a good job of recapping the happenings of the day. I have learned a lot about Parliament, and I am enamored with the Speaker, John Bercow. “Orrrddddaaaaaa”
Aw. I was hoping for some honest arguments, but you seem just as vapid and artificial and insular as the AfD types here in Germany, or the MAGA True Believers back in my homeland.
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I know lots of people who voted to Leave. Essentially, all of my neighbours…(s) which makes for a nice sense of community. (/s)
What I haven’t come across is a Leave voter who can come up with a coherent reason for their vote that doesn’t in the end boil down to “I’m scared of foreigners”.
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Or maybe it’s because you broke the community guidelines.
But I’ll bite.
Why do you think Britain will be better out of the EU? Please make no more than minimal references to the EU, if Britain is leaving then they aren’t important to our future.
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So you want to take back control just to hand it over to the WTO?
https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2010s/2019/no-1376-april-2019/cooking-the-books-wto-rules-ok/
https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/2010s/2019/no-1377-may-2019/letter-do-we-trade/
(note that the SPGB does not side with remain or leave as they reject the concept of nation states)
Or are we attempting British Juche?
And you are letting the EU and remainers live in your head rent free. I wanted to see what you thought if you could stop letting them dominate your mind.
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I enjoy how you keep throwing around the “17.4 million” number, which has clearly declined in a HUGE way since then once the lies that led to those “17.4 million” voting for brexit were outed. Try the referendum again today and see if you can even dredge up 8 million this time.
I realize of course that enjoying the liberty of visiting numerous countries easily, sharing an economic block with powerhouses like Germany, and social liberties that filter through all of the EU must be terrible for you. But you know you could just… leave on your own. You don’t have to stay yourself and take that away from all the other folks who do appreciate them. I hear the USSR is wonderful, you’ll love it there. Just like Tahiti, and they don’t put up with any EU nonsense either! It’s a win-win.
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The UK dominates the EU in terms of rules making. But yes, I can see how having to put up with (checks notes) “a requirement that your country not sell polluted beef” is really a downer.
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I’m sure nobody is surprised by the close resemblance between the Leavers and the Trump fans in America: a mix of ignorance, xenophobia, poisonous nostalgia for a past that never was, and a head full of lies from unscrupulous bastards manipulating ordinary people into voting against their own best interests.
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Anyone got that pre-referendum quote of Farage effectively saying “if the referendum goes Remain but is tight we’ll agitate for another one”?
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