i’m not an academic, but i can grab one of my elbow patched jackets and join up with you and @enso for a pipe of Ol’ Toby.
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I also have many elbow patched items of clothing. And corduroy trousers. Can I come?
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I have neither. I’ve become a Californian after a decade here. I have shorts and t-shirts. For formal wear, I have some cargo pants somewhere.
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So many misconceptions here.
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She doesn’t have a job. The communications department started proceedings to fire her so she quit first.
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How could comm department fire a tenured professor? First of all, she wasn’t tenured. She was a type of adjunct. Second, tenure doesn’t protect you for anything other than infringement of your academic freedom. Committing a crime can still get you fired for cause.
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From what I understand — and I may be incorrect here, happily corrected — she was tenure track in Communications and adjuncted to Journalism (who removed her adjunct status). Did she actually quit?
Totally. Esp. the tension between the media coverage and efforts by SDS and others to maintain their decision-making process.
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You’re right, and I stand corrected on that point. She quit journalism before being removed but not communications.
She is an assistant prof, which means she does not currently have tenure. So all the comments about tenure are irrelevant.
And I have to say, as someone who has been in that position twice so far, she is out of her fucking mind. Tenure is a purely political process that has nothing to do with merit and everything to do with satisfying the egos of those who already have tenure. Somebody who rocked the boat like her is doomed and needs to seek other employment now. There are always written tenure criteria and procedures but, in the event, they are conspicuous by the extent to which the P&T committee ignores them and makes up their own rules. She should have stayed far away from anything resembling a protest.
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Journalism is different than spreading info. Taking home-movies does not make you a journalist.
Also, the 1st Amendment has nothing to do with journalism. The 1st is about speaking and publishing, not collecting.
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How specifically is what he did not journalism?
Was he categorically incapable of journalism without having finished his degree? Is the problem that his work wasn’t commissioned by any publication in advance, something that happens all the time, everywhere? Was some other magic ingredient missing?
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I have a feeling I will be reading it soon. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Man, that’s just mean.
Re: how NOT to get tenure (having it myself, and being a critic of the process as currently implemented), you’re totally right, she totally blew it.
I didn’t say what he did wasn’t journalism.
What I said was he’s not a journalist. Just like not everyone who blows a harmonica is a musician and not everyone who doodles on a post-it is an artist.
This being a journalistic act or him being a journalist though is actually an utterly irrelevant point.
Journalism has nothing to do with the first amendment. Nothing. at. all.
but you didn’t really back up that statement.
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You almost made it sound as if you were drawing a distinction between the stuff he did and the stuff journalists do.
If you have a point that isn’t another variation of the same platitude, then it would be nice if you let us in on the secret.
How is he not a journalist and how does it make a difference?
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Melissa Click has been suspended.
Melissa Click has also agreed to a deal: prosecutors will not pursue third-degree assault charges in exchange for an agreement that includes no violations for one year. Click also has to finish 20 hours of community service and has agreed to waive the statute of limitations. If Click breaks any of the terms, the city will resume prosecution.
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