Quotes on religion and the mythical Christian solar god Jesus's association with the Sun

#STOP WASTING THE MIDORI YOU FIEND 

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You posted:

“Have you ever taken a boat across the Atlantic Ocean? Trust me, you want to do it as close to the Equator as possible.”

You are not reading and following the post replies. Below are the paragraphs I posted, that preceded the sentence you singled out for your post comment directed at me.

I have already posted the answer to your question regarding navigational reasons, trade winds, trade currents and the Canary Islands off the west coast of Africa being a well known departure point.

Here is another excerpt from a linked biography of Columbus.
Christopher Columbus: Biography, Explorer and Navigator, Holiday

Columbus participated in several other expeditions to Africa gaining knowledge of the Atlantic currents flowing east and west from the Canary Islands. Muslim domination of the trade routes through the Middle East makes travel to India and China difficult. Believing a route sailing west across the Atlantic would be quicker and safer, Columbus devised a plan to sail west to get reach the East.

Why do you think Columbus went in the direction of south, into he Canary Islands off the west coast of Africa.

The last sentence is not written to elicit a rhetorical response, it is response to people who deliberately misrepresent why Columbus went to the Canary Islands off the west coast of Africa, to leave on his journey across the Atlantic Ocean.

Your post response indicates you need to read the post-reply comments.

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Drink up!:beers:

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A rhetorical question is one that is not expected to be answered. Did you mean rhetorical analysis? That’s an essay or paper written in a certain way. There’s no such thing as a “rhetorical response”.

Why don’t you stop deliberately misrepresenting why Columbus went to the Canary Islands off the west coast of Africa, to leave on his journey across the Atlantic Ocean?

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But your supporting “evidence” was from nutcases like neo-Nazi Jeff Rense. Why do you persist in using this kind of source?

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So what really is the answer you think we should believe here? Is it because the Canaries were the western-most Spanish controlled territory Columbus could make a stop at before heading even further west and that the trade-winds and currents were favorable, or is there something else you believe we are critically misinformed about? Is the relevance of the Canaries in their position and weather/current conditions, or is there something special about the Africa-ness?

What exactly is it you think these deliberately mis-representing people claim about him stopping in the Canaries along the route? Please, be specific, and please no links, tangents, or rants, just a short clear explanation would be ideal.

You objected to me pointing out a reasonably accurate map, you didn’t actually explain what was the matter with it. You wandered off into an irrelevant tangent about the Americas/Carribean being populated (the map said nothing about populations), and Columbus being a nasty piece of work (which he certainly was, though it’s irrelevant).

Can you state clearly in a few sentences without a tangent, long quotes from unrelated articles, or rants about why Columbus sucks (something we are all are fully aware of) just what’s incorrect about the map showing Columbus hitting the Canaries along his route? (Besides the Mercator projection - yes, it’s a controversy, but it’s irrelevant to a map of a route)

For all that the US education system gets things wrong/omits details about Columbus, the path Columbus took seems to be one of that’s covered reasonably accurately, and you haven’t really showed us what the problem is because you keep wandering off into irrelevant tangents or long unrelated quote-fests. In my school we even covered the fact that Columbus abused the tribes in the Caribbean.

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Thanks for pointing out the history of the site. The article by afrocentric historian, Legrand H. Clegg II, is what I was intent on referencing. I never even considered or investigated that a racist white supremacist site would be posting a well known and sourced article by a “well known and sourced” afrocentric historian. Odd relationship, kind of like racist and bigoted Rand Paul and the Koch brothers, supporting comprehensive criminal justice reform and sentencing guideline reform.

I will edit the post and delete the site Rense, and repost the article by Legrand H. Clegg II.

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I’ve once linked to a copy of Eichmann in Jerusalem that was hosted by some neonazi site. Oops! Sometimes Google does lead to the most horrid sites.

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Thanks again! :scream:

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Don’t introduce me to that “Black Kettle house negro”, we working in the hot sun and steaming hot “Black Pot field negroes” have nothing in common with him. You know historically there is a major difference between the two in working assignments and perception of the plantation owner :smirk:

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Thanks,

The article sourced was from a well known and sourced afrocentric historian, not by the racist and bigot you think. You are 100% right about the site, it is racist and bigoted. Please see the above post reply exchange with one of our Boing Boing members, regarding your appropriate concern.

I addressed it in my reply and by editing the initial post.

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Not odd at all. Many of Clegg’s views and statements appeal to and blend nicely with those of neo-nazis like Rense. Clegg’s antisemitism is not a secret, and his writings about the “Jewish” film industry in Hollywood complement nicely the Weimar purge of Jewish filmmakers. Rense embracing Clegg, like the Kochs embracing Clinton and David Duke lauding Trump, do this because they perceive them as a kindred soul or ideological ally.

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What specifically do you claim is antisemitic about something Legrand H. Clegg II has said?

Post his actual antisemitic comments, not someone’s opinion about something he said.

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Okey Dokey.

NYT, 7/13/1990:

Legrand Clegg, president of the Coalition Against Black Exploitation, a seven-year-old local group that monitors the way blacks are portrayed in the entertainment industry, called Tuesday for ‘‘a summit meeting with the Hollywood Jewish community’’ to ‘‘raise the issue of the century-old problem of Jewish racism in Hollywood.’’ Mr. Clegg, an outspoken local campaigner on black issues, is the Chief Deputy City Attorney in the Los Angeles suburb of Compton. He is well known here for having raised similar charges in the past.

(NAACP Director Benjamin Hooks later forcefully disavowed the statement.)

MAAT News, Vol II Edition V, published by Clegg:

the original Jews were Black people

Los Angeles Sentinel, December 19, 1985:

Jews backed the Civil Rights movement solely to divert White American attention (which, until that time, was virtually focused as much on Jews as on Blacks) from the Jewish. community to African-Americans, and thereby free Jews to quietly slip into the American mainstream.

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Are you for real? Slavery? How about I explain this in a way you’ll understand - I’ll copy the words from another source and paste them here!

As generally understood, the person accusing (the “pot”) is understood to share some quality with the target of their accusation (the “kettle”). The pot is mocking the kettle for a little soot when the pot itself is thoroughly covered with it.

Do you understand why I made that reference now, or should I post a bible quote that holds the same sentiment?

In Matthew 7:3-5, Jesus is quoted as asking, during the discourse on judgmentalism in the Sermon on the Mount, “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?”

Thanks, Wikipedia!

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