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Well, mine doesn’t say “Logician” though that is what I am.

In Jeffries’ case, he turned the CCNY Black Studies department into a de facto Arocentrism department, taking it to such an extreme that CUNY created a second mainstream department in order to marginalize Jeffries and his allies. There are a few other departments which have similarly become so dominated by fringe Afrocentrists that they might as well take the name.

There is always a problem, with the creation of new academic departments or programs, that the strongest local advocates are people with a special agenda, and often they end up setting the department’s tone and direction. This is a general principle, which holds in the sciences as often as in the humanities and social sciences - perhaps more often, since nowadays we tend to see new science departments or programs being established more than new programs in other fields.

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I disagree. It would be a much less complicated world without humans. You add us, you get complications.

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Well, to be fair, “afrocentric” is a broad term, that just means focusing on African and African diasporic history - like any other field, they run the gamut from kooks to respected scholars in their fields. There are African American studies departments and African studies departments. Most historians who study African or African American histories will either be in those departments or in a general history department. Some people in English departments also focus on afrocentric literature/culture and American studies programs will also sometimes hire people who work in Afrocentric work.

Also, what @d_r said. I consider myself a cultural historian, but I doubt I could get a job at a history department that only focused on culture. I would be under a history or cultural studies department.

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My cards used to say “Arcanologist” and also “Troll.” :slight_smile:

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Right. As an adjective, “Afrocentric” (maybe I should use Mindy’s lowercase) simply means studying the subject in a way that relates to its African roots, and is a completely reasonable approach. However, there is also a more political use of the term (I called it “fringe Afrocentrist” above) that has a component of advocacy for some outlandish ideas, basing them on a very suspect methodology rejected by mainstream ethnohistorians. This is certainly what khepra is referring to throughout this thread.

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You? Troll? NEVER!!! (I kid!)

I have no cards… I suppose I should have some made at some point, given my paucity of social media

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Yes, I agree about the difference in how the term is being used, but the term in and of itself was never a bad thing.

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The Academy of Natural Sciences wouldn’t print cards for me that said “Unnatural Scientist” so I had to make my own. I was one of only two people on staff who had a college degree in science _un_related to Natural History, and ironically the guy who vetoed my business cards (VP finance - hi, Sam!) was the other one.

I just read like, 300 posts here to catch up. I think I may have hurt my brain, so excuse me if I’m making less sense than usual. If that’s even possible.

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My cards used to read “Armageddon Avoidance Specailist,” then, “Expert.” I was hoping it would be more useful to be able to pull out the Expert card, though in the end it wasn’t.

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Everyone here has it wrong. What do they teach you people in school? The basis of all society is from Peru. You see, the Peruvians built the first megastructures, then travelled West around India and landed in Africa where they set up early Egyptian culture. Gah. All the Euro-African centric studies in schools today drives me crazy.

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I agree. I hate it when perfectly good adjectives get hijacked to advance a contestation.

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It looks like there are plans to put cedar shingles on the pyramids:

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How hot does it get there? What I’m asking is: could you use them to grill one hell of a big salmon steak?

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Members of the Mormon religion are among some of the leading opponents of same-sex marriage and LGBTQ civil rights. Interesting how the followers of the Mormon religion revere and show deference to the founder of Mormonism, Joseph Smith Jr. and “The Moses of Mormonism” Brigham Young.

Some Mormons in the recent past, have revolted over Mormon policy regarding the LGBTQ community.

From: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/11/16/organizer-at-mass-resignation-event-1500-mormons-quit-church-over-new-anti-gay-policy/

There are more than 6 million Mormons in the United States. But, after the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announced a ban on baptizing children of same-sex couples last week, there were about 1,500 fewer after a mass resignation Saturday in front of the LDS temple in Salt Lake City.

Talk about family values, between the two of them, Joseph Smith Jr. and Brigham Young had over 80 wives between them, some already married to other men-- and some below the age of 18.

http://wivesofjosephsmith.org/

There is also the following religious and slavery quotes from the founder of Mormonism, Joseph Smith Jr. and “The Moses of Mormonism” Brigham Young.

From: Mormon quotes on blacks

“Question Thirteenth. ‘Are the Mormons abolitionists?’ No, unless delivering the people from priestcraft, and the priests from the power of Satan, should be considered abolition. But we do not believe in setting the negroes free.”–Joseph Smith Jr.

“You must not think, from what I say, that I am opposed to slavery. No! The negro is damned, and is to serve his master till God chooses to remove the curse of Ham.”–Brigham Young

“I do not believe that the people of the North have any more right to say that the South shall not hold slaves, than the South have to say the North shall… the first mention we have of slavery is found in the Holy Bible… And so far from that prediction being averse to the mind of God, it [slavery] remains as a lasting monument of the decree of Jehovah, to the shame and confusion of all who have cried out against the South, in consequence of their holding the sons of Ham in servitude.”–Joseph Smith Jr.

“Cain slew his brother… and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and tehn another curse is pronounced upon the same race – that they should be the ‘servant of servants,’ and they will be, until that curse is removed; and the Abolitionists cannot help it, nor in the least alter that decree. How long is that race to endure the dreadful curse that is upon them? That curse will remain upon them, and they never can hold the Priesthood or share in it until all the other descendants of Adam have received the promises and enjoyed the blessings of the Priesthood and the keys thereof. Until the last ones of the residue of Adam’s children are brought up to that favorable position, the children of Cain cannot receive the first ordinances of the Priesthood. They were the first that were cursed, and they will be the last from whom the curse will be removed. When the residue of the family of Adam come up and receive their blessings, then the curse will be removed from the seed of Cain, and they will receive blessings in like proportion.”–Brigham Young

“Why are so many of the inhabitants of the earth cursed with a sin of blackness? It comes in consequence of their fathers rejecting the power of the Holy Priesthood, and the law of God. They will go down to death. And when all the rest of the children have received their blessings in the Holy Priesthood, then that curse will be removed from the seed of Cain, and they will then come up and possess the priesthood, and receive all the blessings which we now are entitled to.”–Brigham Young

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WHAT IS YOUR POINT.

 

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:beers: Drink up!

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If you worked at talking to us on other threads, reading those threads, and so on, you could reach Regular status and see the secret Mormonism thread.

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