Regular says she was banned from eating at the bar at Manhattan's scammy Nello restaurant because she might be a sex-worker

Apparently the standards orgs basically say “just don’t” when it comes to 12am and 12pm, but I’ll still challenge @RickMycroft on their actual existence and meaning when it comes to established convention.

But 12:00 AM isn’t midnight. Midnight is the division between one calendar day and the next. 12:00 AM is the first minute of a day. Heck, noon used to be at 9 AM because midday was calculated differently.

Getting back to the topic, how does he know that the guys at the bar aren’t sex workers?

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Except for when it doesn’t. (Time is hard.)

(But I definitely agree that 24 hour time is superior.)

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Sooooooo.

Lizard person?

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At least the soup Nazi apparently actually had good soup.

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Either that, or…

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They’re just M.

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This place is actually kind of weird in that truth is stranger than fiction kind of way. It seems like literally anyone affiliated with it is a slimeball, like slimeballs all the way down. Wouldn’t surprise me if even the cockroaches are vetted for a certain meanness of character.

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Perhaps, but writing “12:00 M” might be pedantically accurate but it is extremely unhelpful.

I worked a few months for a guy in Chicago who owned and “ran” (if you can call stopping by to pick up deposits and briefly bad-mouth the staff) a popular (good food, go figure) restaurant. Always hiring undocumented workers because he could hold their employment over their heads or withhold pay. I wouldn’t doubt Nello employees are being abused the same way.
Short take: Don’t contradict the boss if you fear for your job.

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Some of them probably are, and from what I remember he would know which ones.

From what I was told about the no longer in business second location it was in fact a common place for sex workers to meet clients.

And that was part of the business model, ownership specifically invited them to work the bar. Including a good number of rent boys.

When I worked in the Hamptons, couple of escorts (a man and a woman) became regulars at my bar. Basically looking for a non bullshit place to drink and eat in their off hours. Nellos was apparently where sex workers went if they didn’t have like weekend bookings specifically to travel to the Hamptons. If you wanted in on that sweet sweet rich douche money you worked on an in with Nellos management.

So I’d imagine there’s something a bit more going on here.

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Fascinating. It’s a restaurant where you can travel back to 1950. I wonder if black people also can’t use the counter?

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i think title ix only applies to educational settings. not to say you couldn’t learn a thing or two in a place like that but it’s still not a school.

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Title 9 also covers public transit; there are reminders about it all over the subway system where I live, but I don’t know about restaurants/bars.

ETA:

You’re correct; its Title II/VI I’m thinking of

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Title II covers who can sit at a bar just as nicely:

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I think I’d feel a bar without any women in it sort of weird, unless if it was a gay bar but the only one’s I’ve ever been at for any length of time also had lesbians so I think I’d still think ‘this is sort of weird.’

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Oh am am SO with you on this. My face is permanently blue from arguing about it so much.

I wonder if the restaurant had been experiencing an uptick thanks to laws throwing sex workers offline.

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