Russia moots ban on discussions about VPNs, reverse proxies, and other anti-censorship techniques


#1

[Read the post]


#2

In the best tradition of post-liberal societies, they will be managed and enforced arbitrarily, as political conditions merit.


#3

“reverse proxies”

In computer networks, a reverse proxy is a type of proxy server that retrieves resources on behalf of a client from one or more servers. These resources are then returned to the client as though they originated from the proxy server itself.

Just incase you didn’t know.


#4

Noting that [circumvention tools] have legitimate uses…

Such as accessing data the government doesn’t want you to access? I don’t suppose free speech is legitimate in Russia, but it still is in many places.


#5

“moots ban” what use such an odd word, does the writer think it makes them cleverererere


#6

Why does the speaker use such odd words? Does the speaker think it makes himself sound scatological?


#7

Do they think e.g. Reddit would cooperate and give the Russian “authorities” the IPs of the ones who discuss this stuff? Would BB do so?


#8

Will russia ever get it’s shit together? They’re like that addicted, abusive family you hear screaming or playing very loud music from way, way down the street;
every Saturday night there’s cop cars parked on their lawn, flashing lights…but nothing ever gets sorted.

Often times, a break up is a better medicine than apathy.


#9

It certainly looks to me like the author was going for the concept of “muting” discussion (via the censorwall and government actions to reduce discussion of censorship). It’s great that someone understands that mute and moot are two different words, but let’s try to take it one more step and understand the definitions and use cases. In the context of moot as a verb in this case, it seems that the use is closer to antithetical to the author’s intent than supportive of it. It’s sad that editors have gone the way of the dodo in online media.


#10

[quote=“twoblades, post:9, topic:75278”]
It’s great that someone understands that mute and moot are two different words, but let’s try to take it one more step and understand the definitions and use cases.[/quote]

The ban is what is being mooted. There’s no reason “mute” would make any sense in that spot, it would only make sense later in the sentence: Russia moots a ban which would mute discussion about VPNs, etc.

Let’s understand the definitions, indeed:
Moot (verb): to present or introduce (any point, subject, project, etc.) for discussion.


#11

Reading the headline the gist of ‘moot’ I got was that the Russians had put forward the idea of a ban, which is what the article is about, don’t read anything confusing about the headline compared to the article.

Mebbe it’s just down to my playing White Wolf’s Werewolf: The Apocalypse where the term is used for meetings of werewolfs so there’s no confusion AFAIC.

As usual the ban itself is going to penalise the law abiding but hey-ho


#12

Man, I haven’t heard anything about that game in -years-
…do people still play? I always heard it was less edgy than other white wolf stuff, and more to do with developing neat stories.


#13

Let’s compare!


#14

I believe the folks teaching sentence comprehension left before the editors.


#15

apparently moots in this context means considers, or not.


#16

This is the kind of shit Theresa May’s deranged fantasies are about. The Home Office Mad Cat Lady would love to pull this off.


#17

In my experience (over 15 years ago) it was definitely structured to encourage more constructive group play with the pack dynamic rather than the thin veneer of pleasantness & co-operation of ‘coteries’ in Vampire: The Masquerade barely concealing sociopathy, the interminable philosophy & semantics debates of Mage: The Ascension, the venomous argument waiting to happen that was the Wraith: The Oblivion Shadows rule component or the pointless but pretty head-scratcher Changeling: The Dreaming.

Haven’t played it in 15 years personally, but I figure people still do - I’m currently playing in a Shadowrun 3rd ed (1998) game because there’s no need to fork out the cash to move to 4th or 5th ed - there’s no hardware obsolescence or compatibility issues, the worst case scenario is the book falls apart, but then there’s always PDFs…


#18

But if they want to illegalise discussions about how to get round your state’s obstacles to discussions about your state’s censorship system, won’t they also have to illegalise discussions about how to get around your state’s obstacles to discussions about how to get round your state’s obstacles to discussions about your state’s censorship system?


#19

“apparently”

In a world where Tolkein’s “entmoot” was part of the top 2002 worldwide box office

Kids today and their inability to pick up/google a dictionary…

(on the other hand) I once knew someone who insisted that Tolkein’s stories were originally written in Old English. So much facepalming…


#20

Comparing mad cat ladies to Theresa May is an insult to all mad cat ladies.

Maybe we should call all paranoid authoritarians Home Secretaries instead.