Samuel Delany's 1977 Star Wars review: why is the future so damned white and male?

They screen-tested Chewbacca in a mini-skirt and it didn’t play well with audiences?

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I was just watching TNG s3e8 “The Price” and I was sort of wondering why Crusher and Troi were shown engaging in stretching exercises.

im a huge star wars fan, ill admit mainly because its my childhood growing up in the 80s but i grew up in a very white male dominated world and never gave a second thought about representation. i learned as I grew into adulthood. I’m happy they are making efforts to make the humans in star wars as diverse as the aliens. Rey and Finn and Rose are great characters and the people complaining about that stuff can f off.

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That’s true. I remember waiting for Star Wars because it was an SF movie, not so common at the time. I didn’t go to much between 2001 and Logan’s Run, but was reading SF.

And I did realize sometime later that Star Wars was a line, between before and after. Afterwards the movies were more action, and mostly original scripts rather than based on “classic” SF stories. And the audience was way bigger, and eventuallytoo often redefined SF as movies and TV rather than books.

They likely didn’t need to straighten his hair. In 1980, straight hair was coming back in a big way. Lando was just at the front of the curve.

Modern humans have been around for a couple of hundred thousand years. Its possible that they developed a modern society 100k years ago, expanded into the universe, and became the star wars universe.

But as a counterpoint, the moon was absolutely pristine when visited by Apollo astronauts. It is covered with rocky debris from around the universe, but nothing made by intelligence, other than things we can identify.

So the Ancient Astronauts theory seems very unlikely.

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You can make the argument for standardisation, if all your soldiers below to the same species then the equipment can be mass manufactured and the training procedures streamlined

Also reinforces the idea of imposing government by force, if the occupying army is 100% humans sends a very strong message to the locals

On the other hand, the rebellion needs the help of everybody they can enrol and reinforces the idea of freedom fighters united against a common and clearly identifiable foe

In practical terms is easier and cheaper to make the props all the same for the empire

I think we are talking mostly about the rebels here. Not a big stretch of the imagination that the bad guys are mostly old white dudes.

The rebels though are a ragtag bunch and are also mostly white men? What gives there. Also, not sure you noticed but a uniform or other equipment can be exactly the same regardless of your skin color. maybe you can argue that men would need slightly different equipment from women but, nah I didn’t think so.

they found a suit for porkins. ha.

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“In those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri. And all dared to brave unknown terrors, to do mighty deeds, to boldly split infinitives that no man had split before

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Not for Black men.

Early 80’s:


Late 80’s:

Now, I’m not saying that it was the studio’s choice to process Williams hair; I don’t know for sure if that was the case or not.

I’m just saying that your contention about male hair trends within the Black community for that particular time period is not correct.

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Even in the 70s, natural hair was in big time… Lots of black men and women were sporting afros then.

[ETA] Also, Bobby Brown was so young! And now My prerogative is stuck in my head… Back in the very early 80s as part of New Edition:

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Sho’, you right.

(There are not words strong enough to convey how jelly I am of that phenomenal 'fro she’s rocking.)

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There is a student in one of my classes this semester who has an afro about that size!

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Complete side tangent;

If you’ve never seen the New Edition Story made for tv movie, you should really check it out; it was surprisingly well done. (It’s a BET production and you know how I feel about that channel.) The actors they hired can actually sing.

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I’ll have to get around to watching that at some point…

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I am not actually probably old enough to get this reference, but I’m reasonably positive that he’s referring about college football and he’s talking about sturdy white male farmboys at the University of Minnesota College of Food, Agricultural and Natural Resource Sciences (Minnesota Ag).

I was thinking jheri curls were on the same spectrum, but no, you’re right. I was thinking of the likes of James Brown and Al Sharpton, but their ‘80’s looks don’t appear to be typical.

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That’s because they weren’t.

‘Conks’ (slang for chemically straightened hairstyles for men) fell out of fashion by the late 50’s/early 60’s. Brown and Sharpton were considered terribly out of fashion by 1970, and the latter is often mocked for his refusal to update his look.

It’s funny that you mentioned both those men; there’s an interview of Sharpton out there somewhere stating that it was Brown who encouraged him to wear the same hair style when they first met.

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