still voting for Bernie, and I’m fine with the fallout.
I used to vote against candidates. “Oh god, we can’t have that”. There’s always going to be someone I don’t want. There’s rarely someone I do.
Never again.
This is the problem with all that Socialism(1). Bernie will vote for Hillary, Hillary will vote for Bernie, and nobody wins and America and Freedom and America lose. At least Trump will vote for himself!(2)
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*1 SOCIALISM!!!
*2 Trump 2016!
This is only shocking to people who bought into the anti-Bernie smear campaign that basically painted him as an irrational zealot trying to break everything and who didn’t understand politics. Basically: if you’re shocked, you’re stupid.
Heck, I’m voting for Bernie*, and I live in Ohio.
* Assuming he’s willing to run. Otherwise, Green.
How is this news? He’s always said this.
I encourage Bernie supporters to vote for Stein, if you want to vote on the platform, for your conscience, as a protest against corporatism, etc.
Several states refuse to count votes for people who lose a party primary.
Meanwhile, Jill Stein has a platform very much like Bernie’s (slightly more progressive) and is still actively seeking support. She won’t win, but votes for her will get her on the ballot on more states, and will more effectively show support for the platform and the need to change the way we do politics.
exactly. he will vote for Hillary, just as he said literally every time he was asked if he would if it came to that. because she’s clearly qualified, and much better than any alternative the GOP offered.
At least this puts to rest the crazy idea that Trump would get Bernie on as the VP.
Alas, even if we defeat Trump, the toxic algal bloom that he has cultivated will continue to lap upon the shores of this country for years to come.
I have a feeling it has always been there, just a lot more people are going to see it now.
Really?
“Bernie Sanders is standing by his criticism that Hillary Clinton isn’t “qualified” to be president”
“Of course” the former secretary of state is qualified for the White House, Sanders said during a town hall on NBC’s “Today.”
“On her worst day she would be an infinitely better president than either of the Republican candidates,”
Appears to me Bernie is more focused on beating trump than praising Clinton.
I think the word “qualified” is carrying too much baggage. Hillary supporters hope it means that she is able to get things done. Hillary detractors see “qualified” as meaning she plays the game that The People always lose.
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still voting for Bernie, and I’m fine with the fallout.
I used to vote against candidates. “Oh god, we can’t have that”. There’s always going to be someone I don’t want. There’s rarely someone I do.
Never again.
[/quote]At least have the guts to vote for Trump, since that’s what you’re actually doing in a 2 party system.
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This is only shocking to people who bought into the anti-Bernie smear campaign that basically painted him as an irrational zealot trying to break everything and who didn’t understand politics. Basically: if you’re shocked, you’re stupid.
[/quote]Pretty sure the “anti-Bernie” people have said all along that Bernie and his voters would eventually vote for Clinton. That’s why Clinton’s supporters have such a good opinion of Bernie, why Hillary always speaks well of him, and in fact praises Bernie as an applause line in her speeches.
It’s the tiny loud internet fringe of Bernie’s fans who fantasized about him running as an independent or joining up with the Greens because Hillary was supposedly so awful and Bernie would never stoop so low to campaign for her.
And those people are stupid, too. But let’s not be in denial about the accusations that Bernie was setting out to sabotage the Democratic party at every turn. That slander was very real.
I agree. There’s an element that’s pushing the “both sides are crazy” meme, but clearly the Democrats are a functioning political party, whereas the GOP is the political equivalent of three cats with their tails tied together.
I would have preferred Sanders, but I’m voting for Hillary because she’s a competent politician, not because she’s “anyone but Trump.”
you left off the rest of my sentence, which was “…if it came to that.” – and that was the point of the second quote you posted by him, saying on her worst day she’s better than any any of the republican candidates on their best day. he has always said that if he didn’t get the nomination, he would vote for her because of that.
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I encourage Bernie supporters to vote for Stein, if you want to vote on the platform, for your conscience, as a protest against corporatism, etc.
Several states refuse to count votes for people who lose a party primary.
Meanwhile, Jill Stein has a platform very much like Bernie’s (slightly more progressive) and is still actively seeking support. She won’t win, but votes for her will get her on the ballot on more states, and will more effectively show support for the platform and the need to change the way we do politics.
[/quote]Stein posted the results from one of those online ideology test things the other day (super professional campaign by the way). She, Bernie, and Hillary are all up in the 90’s. There’s virtually no difference between them on actual policy matters.
Apply tourniquet THEN suck out the poison.
More specifically, that quiz shows Jill is a 99% match with Bernie and 91% with Hillary.
For what it’s worth, human DNA is 98% similar to chimpanzees and 92% similar to mice.
I suspect the majority of where Hillary agrees with them is on issues along the lines of “women should be able to vote and own property” and “science is actually a thing.”
“Small” differences are vitally important. For instance:
Do you support the Patriot Act?
Hillary Clinton’s answer: Yes
Jill Stein’s answer: No, and pass strict laws prohibiting any government surveillance
Should there be term limits set for members of Congress?
Hillary Clinton has not stated a position on this issue
Jill Stein’s answer: Yes, term limits will increase performance and prevent corruption
Do you support the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare)? stats discuss
Hillary Clinton’s answer: Yes
Jill Stein’s answer: Yes, but a mandatory single payer system would be even better
Should the federal government increase funding of health care for low income individuals (Medicaid)?
Hillary Clinton’s answer: Yes
Jill Stein’s answer: Yes, but I prefer switching to a single payer healthcare system
Should physically and mentally capable adults on welfare be required to work?
Hillary Clinton’s answer: Yes
Jill Stein’s answer: No, “workfare” is a form of slave labor
Should the Federal Reserve Bank be audited by Congress?
Hillary Clinton has not stated a position on this issue
Jill Stein’s answer: Yes
Should the government decrease military spending?
Hillary Clinton’s answer: Do not change current military budget
Jill Stein’s answer: Yes
Should the U.S. formally declare war on ISIS?
Hillary Clinton’s answer: Yes, but only with targeted airstrikes
Jill Stein’s answer: No
Should the military fly drones over foreign countries to gain intelligence and kill suspected terrorists?
Hillary Clinton’s answer: Yes
Jill Stein’s answer: No
Should the U.S. overthrow President Assad of Syria?
Hillary Clinton’s answer: Yes, but only if we join an international coalition
Jill Stein’s answer: No
Should the U.S. prevent Russia from conducting airstrikes in Syria?
Hillary Clinton’s answer: Yes, and establish a no-fly zone
Jill Stein’s answer: No
