I was actually saying both sides were illogical and that even Pascals wager was illogical as that we merely need to just wait and see…as if even that would prove anything. ( scientistic dogma is a hard habit to break.)
Rum worked for dear Horatio…
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this song is coming in handy today:
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But apparently their “belief” is in hypnosis and NLP, neither of which are theology in any form. Beyond the initial cowardly appeal to Pascal’s Wager, it’s devolved into gibberish.
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Wow. I need to post one of those signs on my front door. Only my real friends would enter, then.
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I do pre-surgical Hypnosis for dentistry, and typically the dentist will remark on the relaxed state of the patient, the low blood pressure and heart rate and significant lack of bleeding during the process.
I would claim that is empirical evidence for Hypnosis working as the scientific measuring devices are reporting the predicted effects of my work.
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Robert Anton Wilson has a page somewhere that has a pope card that he pre- ordained just for all of us and our dogs…and cats ( if you must) so that we may all be pope in what ever way we see fit.
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Yeah, well, last time I had an infection so not everything unhappy was dead!
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In which Bible is “Yahweh” used exclusively in the OT, and “Jehova” in the NT? From the brief research I’ve done in the past few minutes, early manuscripts used either kyrios/kurios (Greek for “The Lord”), or the tetragrammaton (YHWH). “Jehova” didn’t come into common use until the Protestant Reformation.
I’m not saying that the concept of the Abrahamic God hasn’t evolved over the millennia and between the various schisms. All I’m saying is that to distinguish between Jehovah and Yahweh as different entities is like saying that “Her-mee-own” suddenly becomes a different character in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire when you learn to pronounce Hermione’s name properly (if you read the books before watching the movies). They’re just different pronunciations of the same name, not two distinct beings.
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Yeah, I think I lost the title by claiming it.
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I’m pretty sure you’re correct there.
Although I stand by the statement that OT god is definitely smite-ier, and NT god is quite forgiving, even if it’s for sins it caused to happen in the first place by deciding to create the world to be so shitty, by its own mythology.
Make sure to A/B it with sham hypnosis, so you can avoid the same “success” we see from fake acupuncture.
Also, what in the blazes of LaVeyan nonhell does your practice have to do with your practice of agnostic atheism? You keep curiously bringing it up. You can’t ever know, yet your pseudomedical practice is, at the same time, evidence that God exists?
I am not assuming a direct Knights Templar connection. Nearly all of the extant information about them is via Catholic confessions and critique, which in other areas such as Gnostics and witchcraft has proven unreliable compared to other historical record. There certainly is at least an indirect Templar connection through Hermeticism and Masonry, which is how it became popular with folks such as Levi and Crowley.
My own conjecture, perhaps dodgy, is that Catholic records always overlay Abrahamic explanations of pagan practices rather than accepting anything at face value, and that any Arabian, Levantine, ot Mesopotamian sorcery would be dismissed as Muslim. Or Saracen, or Turk, or whatever scary bugbear was in vogue at the moment. Some bishops insisting that it must have meant Mohammed sounds too convenient and unlikely. What Muslims worship Mohammed like a god and do weird rituals to him? It’s not even common Muslim practice. Whereas serpent cults have been popular everywhere for thousands of years - and the name is an even closer match. Not unlike how the Catholic church was largely responsible for the grimoire craze over this exact same span of time (1500s-1800s), being mostly somewhat Christianized (Diabolized?) interpretations of older Jewish, Greek, Egyptian records of ancient pagan practices. Made much more sensational and black-metal than the originals ever were! Officially, the Catholics treated these works as heresy, but it was always bored mischievous bishops and monks who dug them out of the vaults and published them on the sly. I guarantee you that their treatment of Baphomet is no different. And (again with the mythological drift) whatever modern consensus there is now is shaped through centuries of fringe western occultism, regardless of whatever real mythological origins it may have.
Also, shouldn’t a Satanic Shirley Temple be a drink?
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Oooh, I’m thinking added super strong cinnamon, and maybe (if you’re gross like me) some sriracha!
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Add a good shot of vodka.
Oh I want one now.
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Well, that’s the question, right… do you take a cocktail, meant for the kiddies, and tart it up with alcohol, or as @LDoBe suggests, and just make it a big stronger… Both could work.
Of course, it IS called “satanic”…
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Well then, make a Shirley Temple, and give it a double of Fireball or other appropriately spiced liquor…
I’m just waiting for the year 3001, so I can get my Shirley Hemple.
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Ooh. Too much garlic in sriracha if you’re adding it to a Shirley Temple. Strain it through some crushed habanero or ghost pepper maybe? (I like garlic, and I know you qualified it as gross, but I need to find a way I might make this. After seeing @gregmcph’s vodka post I’m leaning toward a pepper infused vodka.)
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