Remember how, upon retirement from the White House, Ronald and Nancy Reagan moved to Bel Air, CA… specifically to 666 St. Cloud Road? Which they promptly renumbered 668 St. Cloud Road?
The Neighbor of the Beast.
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Sure, that would’ve been cool, but my day just isn’t complete without a dose of tragicomic burning stupid. Must be why I enjoy the Continuing Misadventures of Florida Man so much.
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As if the school bus wasn’t horrifying enough, some teachers have been adorning their students’ homework with satanic iconography.
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You either aren’t a Christian or don’t know much about them. Me? I’m atheist so I think it’s important to know and understand all religions.
- The pentacle was the first and most important of the Seven Seals – an amulet whose seals represented the seven secret names of God.
- It was inscribed on King Solomon’s ring, which is often called
Solomon’s Seal - Each point of the pentagram was also interpreted as referring to the
five books of the Pentateuch – the first five books in the Hebrew
Scriptures; the Torah - Before the cross, it was a preferred emblem to adorn the jewelry and
amulets of early Christians - The pentagram was used in ancient times as a Christian symbol for the
five senses, or of the five wounds of Christ. - A Christian use of the pentacle occurs in the 14th-century English
poem Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, in which the symbol decorates
the shield of the hero, Gawain. The unnamed poet credits the symbol’s
origin to King Solomon, and says the symbol is key to understanding
the work. - The Pentacle is the Knight Templar’s most used symbol
- Medieval Christians believed that the pentagram, because of its
Christological nature, had the power to ward off demons
That symbol is thick with apocalyptic zombie desert blood cult belief systems such as Christianity.
Where does it say in any Christian or Hebrew texts that astrology is to be rejected? I think perhaps you are thinking of modern evangelism of the past 100 years.
Here are some examples of astrology in the bible
“I know a person in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN. Whether it was in the body or out of the body I do not know - God knows. And I know that this person - whether in the body or apart from the body I do not know, but God knows - was caught up to paradise. He heard inexpressible things, things that humans are not permitted to tell.” (2 Cor. 12:1-4)
“And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as SIGNS to mark seasons and days and years, and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the Earth.” And it was so.” (Gen. 1:14-15)
“And there shall be SIGNS in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the Earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the Earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.” (Luke 21:25-27)
God even used astrology to answer Job
“Can you bring forth the Mazzaroth (the zodiac) in their seasons or lead out the Bear with its cubs? (an astrological constellation)” (Job 38:32)
But most importantly, Jesus refers to himself as the morning star (aka Venus… the source of the pentacle)
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright MORNING STAR.” (Rev. 22:16)
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A lot of people don’t realize just how many logos came in and out of fashion in the early years of Christianity.
My favorites are the pelican and the peacock, because they were both adopted based on inaccurate medieval knowledge of ornithology. The peacock’s flesh was thought not to decay after death, symbolizing immortality. The pelican was thought to feed its young by tearing flesh from its own body, symbolizing the eucharist. Basically, early Christians were really bad at observing birds.
Let’s face it, the only reason the cross won out in the end is because it’s the easiest to draw.
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(ETA: I’m getting 502 errors on posts again. Is @beschizza Fixing Things, or what?)
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I have to question the sources of some of those listed items. At any rate, there are a lot of symbols, both new and ancient, used by Christians for various purposes. The shamrock represents the trinity. The 3 part Celtic knot does the same. The swastika has been used as a Christian cross in the past.
Like I said I don’t have any doubt about some sects used it - especially those with ties to mysticism. I don’t think it’s been a “main stream one” where you could find it adorning the Pope.
But yes the bible has several verses warning about astrology and people using the stars to predict the future, as well as mediums and those who talk to the dead. While I am aware there are contradictory verses on this - it was a pseudoscience in the past - most of the main Protestant sects and Catholics reject astrology in their dogma. Though I am sure a good number of their members still have some belief/interest in horoscopes and the like.
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For instance, providing buses to get them to school which is clearly socialist indoctrination.
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Don’t forget geese came from trees!
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Many of you seem to be missing the point that the pentagram is inverted. A right-side-up pentagram, with one point up and two down (like Patrick the starfish) is OK. When you turn it over, just as when you turn the cross upside-down, it becomes Satanic.
Of course, this is not part of Christianity, only a thing believed by some folks who have nothing better to do than worry about which way a geometric symbol is oriented.
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Or just the cross of St. Peter, that famous satanist.
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I’m guessing none of these whiners belongs to the Order of the Eastern Star…
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That’s one of the fun things about modern religion. People get to look at what their faith did in the past and write it off as some off the wall sect and not mainstream.
So, it needs to be part of Roman Catholicism for it to be main stream Christianity? Ok, how about the fact that Constantine (you know, the saint?) used it as his seal to represent divinity? Or how about the fact that Catholic alters of the 19th and 20th century prominently displayed pentacles (without the circle which had been removed by the Catholics prior to the inquisition)?
Let me ask you this, do you know of a Christian sect created prior to 1516 that didn’t use the pentacle and pentagram as a holy symbol of divinity?
I am unaware of any verses warning about astrology. I am aware of several where it is used by the faithful and by god itself. Kindly point out one of these many warnings contained within the Bible.
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Let we forget the Three Wise Men? They were astrologers, and their gifts were accepted.
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So, it needs to be part of Roman Catholicism for it to be main stream Christianity?[/quote]
For about the first 1500 years, yes. ETA - I guess and the Orthodox Churches.
I’ll have to look around some later, but most of my initial searching for some of your claims all looks like sketchy baloney, but maybe I’ll learn something. Like said though, the shamrock and swastika were used by some as well, don’t think it is in the same league as the crucifix. And just because it was used by people to represent something to the, doesn’t make it an official holy symbol recognized by the church.
I’m not a bible expert either, but I know that the occult and astrology (sometimes called divination) is warned as bad in the bible. I mean, just in simple google search I found this page. It doesn’t sound like you looked very hard.
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Like I said there obviously is some contradiction. But it warns people trying to figure out the future with the occult vs faith in god. I mean are we arguing about this? I really don’t care enough about it.
Well, the simple-minded folk who see Baphomet in bus taillights may not think of Saint Peter first when their pastor fills their wee heads with Slayer album covers and images like this:
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Yeah, there’s this big ol’ church in Hanover supporting this thesis (and stunning tourists into temporary silence)
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Official holy symbol recognized by the church? There aren’t ANY official holy symbols until the last 100 years or so. And what church? Whose church? Your church?
I looked at your links. The only warnings are along the lines of “our magicians are called prophets. their magicians are called sorcerers” and “their magic is evil, ours is divine” All throughout the book, the faithful have prophets who perform magic and divination. It is the magic of the ‘others’ that is evil. Not the practice itself.
example
Thus says the Lord: “Learn not the way of the nations, nor be dismayed at the signs of the heavens because the nations are dismayed at them,
So signs are ok, just don’t be bothered by them as the ‘others’ are.
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The Pentagon, on the other hand
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