'Shadow' app that failed in Iowa caucus was doomed from the start, say those forced to use it

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Just edited to reflect that as I realised it. Biff getting a second term isn’t only about the SCOTUS, either, as bad as that would be; it’s really the end of liberal democracy in the U.S.

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12% of Bernie supporters didn’t vote for HRC in 2016.

HRC supporters in 2008? 15% didn’t vote for Obama.

But please, keep spouting off about “Bernie Bros”.

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Where did I say that behaviour was exclusive to Sanders supporters? Every campaign has its personality cultists, and the Sanders campaign is saddled with these white male brocialists now as they were in 2016.

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One comment I saw that I immediately suspected as a Russian disinformation plant was that the software company was started by people that worked on Clinton’s 2016 campaign. That just sounds too much like a conspiracy theory to be true.

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Maybe they should have filled that position before the caucus.

At first I guessed that was someone trolling Shadow by posting that job today, but its not. They have the same job posting on their website
https://shadowinc.io/jobs/client-success-rep/

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Use of the word “another” with opportunity, coupled with the fallacy of exclusion.

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“Bernie Bros”

Are we still doing that ?

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“Another” because this small group of loud-mouthed and petulant man-children did it in 2016. I talk about them in particular because the perception, true or false, is that this debacle was an attempt by the Dem establishment to take the wind out of what looks like a strong showing or outright victory for Sanders in Iowa.

If we’re not pretending that Sanders personality cultists don’t exist, then yes. Again, I say this as someone who would love to see him as the nominee and who would rather they stop “helping”.

[I’m not going to help derail further. Start your own topic on whether BernieBros exist or not]

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This really feels like more DNC fuckery, in the same way that the Clinton campaign owned the DNC in 2016. Was the app designed to go into a fail state if Biden didn’t take the lead? That would buy time for the DNC to go to Plan B, and/or reduce credibility of the actual results.

Caucus people could just as easily text their results in, or call them in, or write them on a piece of paper and hand-deliver them. The only need for an app here is to reduce transparency.

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While that is a wonderful rant, rightly so, about electronic voting. That’s not what this was.

My understanding, and limited photos seen on twitter, is that each precinct used paper to count and total people in the room. Basically, some variation of flip boards.

The app was about tabulating results from each precinct. Something that should also be audited after the fact against the paper flip boards.

A custom app seems like overkill for what could have been done by a google form, survey monkey, phone call and Excel, or any of dozens of off the self solutions. Preferably with double entry by different people and cross checked for accuracy, typos do happen. And then, all audited again after the fact against the real paper.

This was a planning and operations failure by the Democratic party running the primary, not the state elections.

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I look forward to hearing about how they’ll be upping their IT security by hiring Cobra Command.Well,

SHADOW and the Cobra Senior IT Security Consultant Storm Shadow both had the same name, so we figured there’d be some familiarity with the systems. :woman_shrugging:

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It’s a perception built on an enormous hostility to Sanders in the DNC, as evidenced by the stacking of the committee in 2016 (despite Sanders representing 2/5ths of the primary vote) as well as last week, coupled with a last-minute rules change allowing a self-funded, self-identified spoiler candidate into the debates.

Maybe if the process had been open and fair at the outset, the rank incompetence of a software development company funded heavily by and tied to a rival candidate could be recognized as such instead of yet more evidence that the fix is in.

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toaster-oven-rip president 2020

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I agree with everything you say there. My comment history makes my views on the Dem establishment clear . But if Biden is the nominee I’ll be voting for him despite that. That’s the difference between a Sanders supporter like me and a BernieBro.

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You would think, right? Here are the LinkedIn pages for the people who manage Shadow, though:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerard-niemira-aaa9b73
https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-davis-aa2016b6

ETA: I’m posting these to show that they have straight-line connections from HRC’s campaign to Shadow, Inc. It feels a little creepy to me, but on the other hand they are 110% public figures now.

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also Marked-Safe-From version f2

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DOH!..!

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Same. This will be my tenth straight vote for the Democratic nominee in November, regardless.

But that doesn’t mean this whole process, swimming in the twin sauces of stupidity and venality, doesn’t stink to goddam heaven.

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