Sovereign Citizen tries to outsmart cop, gets tased in the nuggets

What’s worse is there are fraudsters taking advantage of native Hawaiians mis representing land titles and the like.

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Another recurring theme is “Child custody”.
There is a reason why so many of these dickslaps are no longer allowed access to their property children.

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Why bother with the court at all if he is not bound by it? He subjected himself to all of this, court workers could not verify his ID and protecting the court.

Also, wtf is up with him and the whole “i’m not a person, i’m a man” statement? Is a person not the same as a man in the eyes of the law? Also, what law is he subjected to that the rest of us are not?

So manny questions. Wrong place for his show tho :sweat_smile:

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Pretty much. The Oath Keepers are direct descendants of the racist Posse Comitatus. They subscribe to the same lunatic interpretations of the US Constitution.

I’m wondering how these folks exist in society when they’re not members of society…doesn’t seem to make any sense to me…yet, here they are!!!

As far as being tased in the nuggets: Seems like a waste of good electricity.

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And of Mountain Man Oysters. Mmmmmmm

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Thanks for that detail- I was wondering what all the “I’m going to bill you for this” stuff was about. That made no sense to me. This is a corner of SC lore that I wasn’t aware of.

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This is all part of Sovereign Citizen lore. They believe US federal law is derived from British Admiralty or Maritime law (because courthouse flags have gold fringe on them… it’s all very very stupid). Then, because they view the law as a series of magic incantations, they think US law doesn’t apply to them because British Admiralty law uses the word “person” whereas County or state law uses the word “man”. By declaring themselves men, not persons, that set of laws does not apply. It’s why he says to the bailiff, “you deal with Admiralty here” at one point. I’m sure I’m muddling some details here, but I don’t want to subject myself to googling the things required to get the finer points of their ridiculous little belief system correct.

The main reason he keeps saying it over and over though is because he wants someone to ask him what he means so he can give one of the stupid SC speeches about the above topics. Luckily all these court employees are used to nutbars and don’t take his bait.

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It further goes on too, because many of these people believe that “persons” are fictitious entities created when the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA became a CORPORATION in whenever the hell they believe that was, and that members of that COMPANY are PERSONS, but people opting out are not.

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Not to derail, I want to differentiate between the White Power sovereign citizen movement & the Hawaiian sovereignty movement, which I see as part of the Indigenous “Land Back” effort. The stance of the Hawaiian “squatters” is that their nation was invaded by a hostile army, their sovereign deposed by force, & their land stolen. Any land transfers since then are considered spurious.

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These particular Hawaiian sovereignty activists are influenced by Sovereign Citizen beliefs. From the article that @RickMycroft linked to:

The justifications put forward by the occupying group are a mishmash of unsupported beliefs about Hawaii land titles, lingering historical resentments of the 1893 overthrow of the Hawaiian kingdom, rejection of the existing government and its laws as “fake,” beliefs about “allodial” land rights adopted from so-called “sovereign citizen” groups on the anti-government fringe, elements of the “straw man” conspiracy theory, and a healthy dose of plain old magical thinking.

Their understanding of pre-colonial land rights seems to be incorrect.

This and similar land seizures in other parts of the state have been fueled by the mistaken belief that a Royal Patent or Land Commission award from the mid-19th century mahele-era includes the right to ownership of land by the original owner and descendants “in perpetuity.” The Great Mahele occurred in 1848 when Kamehameha III distributed land in a land division that launched private ownership in Hawaii.

The Lot 19 group, for example, says its “superior title” to the land rests on two of its members. Travis Mokiao and Kaiulani Mokiao, who have claimed in court filings to be “lineal descendants and heirs to the land in question, and both … hold an undivided interest in the land in question through genealogical tie.”

The problem with this now-and-forever view of land title is that the distribution during and after the mahele also came with the right to dispose of land by sale or gift, or to leave the property to chosen heirs, whether or not they happened to be related by blood.

Title to the property would remain “in the family’s name” only if it was never sold or transferred outside the family at any point in the past century and a half. As a result, claiming to be a descendant is very different from being a legal heir with right of inheritance.

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The cops or the sovereign citizens? Yeah, yeah, I know, ¿por qué no los dos?

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