Of all the Koo-Koo cults percolating across the American landscape today?
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Here’s how these encounters should go down:
Sovereign Citizen: I am not a person.
Cop: Okay, let’s call in animal control, then.
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It’s exactly like flat earth, honestly. The SC movement is a bunch of magical thinking and faux intellectualism around the supposed maritime origins of law, gold fringe on flags, semantic pedantry in how laws are worded, and other nonsense. In other words, it’s religion for angry white men who think they are the smartest people in every room.
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Yeah, I’m currently in law school, and there’s a major push to encouraging the use of plain language as much as possible over legalese. If I’d written something like that in my Lawyering (legal writing) class, I would have lost points.
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I don’t know. Rational thought clearly isn’t their forte.
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cop: You are an amateur. I am a trained professional.
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Assholes gonna asshole, until they meet an even bigger asshole.
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Sovereignty nuggets?
Got him right in his “jurisdiction”?
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Admiralty maritime non-person bro asshole faux-lawyer speak, if you please!
The smile the suit gives at 5:55 – when Sovereign Bro claims for Nth time he isn’t a “person” and furthermore doesn’t “wish to create joinder” with the suit – says it all.
[This clip is at least 6 10 years old. It ages like a fine wine.]
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Ten years old.
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Or from that grifter’s $158/head seminar the other week.
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Does that include a chakra alignment?
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I always wonder this as well. They also think it will work on bailiffs, security guards, county clerks, DMV employees, and anyone else vaguely associated with government or authority. They seem to think everyone will listen to their speech and think, “well, you got me! You’re free to do as you wish”.
Of course, I think the real answer is that it’s performative for their SC brethren. It’s why they walk in filming and immediately make trouble for the little people in government– because it makes a better show. A judge is just going to throw you in the box for contempt immediately. A county clerk has no choice but to argue with you for 20 minutes and let you make all your “points”.
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What a mess.
And here we are:
Lilikoi, whose real name is Eric C.A. Nelson, pleaded guilty in 1993 to six Class A felonies for carrying out a string of armed robberies from supermarkets and stores around Oahu. News accounts at the time dubbed him the “bicycle bandit” after witnesses reported seeing him fleeing on a bicycle. Nelson was sentenced to serve six concurrent 20-year terms.
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Not without flowers and an upscale restaurant.
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Being thrown in the box beats being thrown to the ground, and THEN thrown in the box.
But you’re right, the whole thing is performative. It’s all “See me standing up to THE MAN.” Wanna be heroes that can’t really imagine suffering REAL negative consequences. This guy has obviously not really considered what happens AFTER his little performance act. Because you’re not going to make bail with those fake checks that they’re fond of.
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ASCAB.
Yes, BBS, it’s a sentence.
He has thought about it though, and since this is ten years old I think what happened next was he was he took a plea deal with the proviso that as part of the agreement he wouldn’t do anything about the tasering incident. Those contempt charges were dropped too. He served no jail time and had his record cleaned.
What can and often does happen after this, though, is that the sovcit will send invoices to everyone who “impeded his right to travel freely” and after those million to billion dollar per minute invoices aren’t paid, they’ll put liens against houses, property, kids property, etc of the people who wronged him. That’s why he is asking everyone for their name, because they believe if they give him their name they are entering into “joinder”/“contracts” with them. That’s why he doesn’t do ANYTHING until he gets their names, because in his mind it means they’re agreeing to be billed for their time.
Oftentimes these liens aren’t found out about until someone tries to move/sell house/car /etc. And by that time, there have been five or six other liens put on for interest, late penalties, etc. as discussed in the invoices that were likely ignored.
Now, eventually these all get cleared away, a few thousand dollars of lawyers fees later.
EDIT: Also, in this case, the original charges he was facing was a misdemeanor ticket of “riding a bicycle without a light at night in the city limits.” And it sounds like the judge knew who he was and had given permission in the past to film. They also did not follow the law when deploying the taser, so that’s why those charges were dismissed as part of the plea deal.
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SovCits might believe that you can. From the essay by Donald Netolitsky that @smut_clyde linked to:
Sympathetic magic is a magic based on imitation or correspondence. 71 The classic example of imitative magic is to make a figure, effigy, or fetish of a person or object. Manipulation of this item is then expected to affect its template. Sympathetic magic may also operate by simulation. For example, simulating hunting activities is perceived to cause a subsequent and successful hunt. Manufacturing an image of a prey animal will cause that animal to appear. Representations of a true article hold power.
Sympathetic magic documents are not uncommon in OPCA litigation, particularly in debt elimination schemes. The “private registered set off bonds” in Bossé v. Farm Credit Canada are another example: “It defies logic that one could print out bonds for any sum of money, let alone significant amounts, and simply say to one’s creditors ‘here, go away, you have been paid.’” 72
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