From the first movie my personal theory was always that Rey was a reincarnation of Vader, clone or no.
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I still want to see a spin-off from the point of view of those two stormtroopers who wisely turned around to reverse course when they heard an infuriated Kylo trashing the interrogation room Rey escaped from. I’m thinking a “Jay & Silent Bob”-style buddy slacker movie.
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Ren is pretty clearly a direct shot at that. A lot of people have read him as a spin on entitled, exclusionary fan boys. There’s a line when he’s interrogating Rey “I take what I want” or something like that, comes off as a sexual threat too. Though I tend to credit Driver for a lot of that over Abrams.
Said “fans” are very unhappy with Ren as a villian. Purportedly because he’s lame and incompetent. But he’s not supposed to be the sort of scary they’re expecting. I think he’s supposed to be sort of pathetic and petulant, frightening for the ways in which his inadequacy makes him lash out.
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Also:
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I liked TFA quite a lot, and saw it twice, I didn’t hate TLJ, but only saw it once. Narratively, TFA is stronger, and the biggest problem with TLJ is that it’s a mess of three pretty unconnected stories. Each of those stories was interesting on it’s own, although the Poe storyline was the least weakest, and there were some compelling scenes (the mirror in the cave scene), and some very interesting ideas, but it needed a firmer hand to pull it all together.
Correction; *the Poe storyline was the least weakest should read the Poe storyline was the weakest
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The LEGO Star Wars adaptation goes the extra step of actually making it his bedroom, which I really appreciated.
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I agree with this.
The moment where they all climax together I think is up there as one of the greatest moments in the franchise. Problem is that it got kind of clunky to get there, and then the movie proceeded to have another half hearted climax by mixing in even another story line.
Its unfortunate that the fan base has a hard time being critical of the movies at the risk of being a racist incel in hiding.
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nnnnnnope. tried three different versions. it just gets lenghty, more weird, more pathetic and more pointless inner-dialogue read out-loud. basicly, it just adds to the
as my post here.
and yeah, I cried too; cause its just painful to watch.
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George would have loved that idea.
Ugh. It’s almost worse.
Naberrie. Padme’s last name was Naberrie. Amidala was her regnal name, which she continues to use after she’s stepped down as queen as per Naboo tradition.
(neeeeerrrrdddddd)
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Man, I don’t understand anyone saying TFA is better than TLJ. I loved it the first time I saw it, but it was just my excitement carrying me through. On a second viewing it is a pretty much a strong of coincidences and lucky breaks through to the end with a solid ending. It’s not even the stuff people pointed to at the time (like Rey’s piloting ability or force use), it’s like they went from “oh we have a lightsaber fight in the snow” to “wait, where does he lightsaber come from?” to “a random person in a random place has it for some reason, we’ll let them put it in a book somewhere”
Are you saying that Poe’s plot was the most least not weakest?
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It had the most amount of weakness. The least most strong.
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I’m somewhat mystified that a certain, very vocal subset of fans hated this so much; didn’t yoda say earlier in the film that “The greatest teacher, failure is. Luke, we are what they grow beyond. That is the true burden of all masters.” and didn’t luke do exactly that by force projecting across however many light years? They should have been cheering that he managed something no other jedi has ever accomplished but somehow they felt cheated he didn’t fly down in his x-wing, jump out and have a boring old lightsaber fight we’ve seen countless times before.
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Someone makes a bunch of found WWII footage, shoehorns in a gunslinger, a samurai, and a few Gandalfs and Sarumans into a movie franchise and you think we’re the mental ones?
Yeah, actually, ok. That’s fair enough.
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Oh wow, that scene was better than Star Wars ever deserved, and I say that with all the fondness for Star Wars than can be mustered in one carbon-based lifeform.
The Last Jedi already had me in a firm “I’m with ya” grip, but that whole set piece was perfect.
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My father (who is always tight lipped and rarely audibly responds to films) when Luke brushed his shoulder off stood up and exclaimed “fuck yes” and moments later when the reveal came he was teary eyed. So agreed on all counts.
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