Originally published at: Star Wars: The Acolyte's cancellation leaves High Republic fans with Nubs - Boing Boing
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Starting to think The Acolyte should have used its single season to tell a tight, self-contained story instead of padding out half a story over too many episodes in the hopes of getting renewed for a second season.
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The real money is in the merchandise anyway.
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My main problem with the Acolyte is that most of the Jedi in it were awful people. It was like if Zach Snyder made a tv series about the Jedi. I understand corruption in the Jedi Council is what led to the rise of the Empire and Darth Vader, but (a) this story is well before that, and (b) in the Acolyte, all but a couple of the Jedi we see do bad shit. It’s not like it’s a couple of bad apples. It’s almost all of them. If you want to make a series about Force powered individuals being bad, make a series about the Sith!
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Who, in your opinion, were some of the well-known Jedi in the franchise that weren’t awful?
Luke sure turned out to be a bit of an asshole when he gave Grogu an ultimatum to decide between having a loving father-figure in his life or getting trained in the ways of the force. When he chose the former Luke didn’t even give the kid a ride home to make sure he was ok. He had his droid drop him off at a mechanic’s place under the assumption that Din Djarin would get word somehow and come pick him up. (Plus there were earlier signs of assholery even in the original trilogy. He murdered way more people to free his friends from Jabba than was necessary.)
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“well meaning” religious zealots protecting their orders control and imposition of “peace” on the galaxy are not fun party guests?
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Well Luke is after the fall of the Jedi Order. He had minimal training by Obi Wan and Yoda, and was trying to rebuild the Order according to those rules as he had learned them. Which, again, was minimal. One of those rules was that Jedi had to avoid emotional attachments.
I was talking more about the time when the Jedi Order got entangled in politics and allowed themselves to become Generals in a civil war. Even then, most of the Jedi were misguided, notably Yoda. The only overtly corrupt one was Count Dooku. And Anakin, obviously, did some horrific things. The others, like Mace Windu, Obi Wan, and Qui-Gon, at least thought they were doing the right thing. I’m not sure the Jedi in the Acolyte did. The cover up of their fuck up was the whole season.
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Mace Windu and Obi Won enlisted a slave army of child soldiers without hesitation in order to prevent some planetary governments from leaving the Republic. That’s objectively evil and unforgivable no matter how they justfied it to themselves. Qui-Gon decided to literally gamble with the life of a child that he’d just met in order to get some spaceship parts, then asked the child to leave his mother forever in order to join his cult. That hardly seems more ethical than just stealing the parts from the slaver that they belonged to.
If you can say that these guys thought that they were doing the right thing then you can say that about anybody, especially most of the folks in the Empire who believed they were upholding the law and maintaining order.
Immediately before drinking the poison Torbin’s last words were “We thought we were doing the right thing,” so…
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Guess i’m glad i don’t have Disney+ because i haven’t watched The Acolyte at all, surprised to even find out it was cancelled. Oh well
Yeah it’s nuts that so many people are fine with giving the Jedi a pass on that one.
Usually they rationalize it with “well, it’s not like the Jedi Order actually conscripted that slave army, they just made use of the slave army once they had possession of it.”
Bruh, if you ever suddenly find yourself in possession of a slave army there is one and only one ethical course of action available to you: turn them free.
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I’m sad. This introduced my absolute favorite villain. Manny’s portrayal of Qmir was absolutely amazing. I really was looking forward to going into his back story.
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They were awful all along cue the Agatha music…
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The prequels came really close to telling the a dark origin story about why the Old Republic and the Jedi deserved to be overthrown but it felt like Lucas missed his own subtext or something.
For example: the way the story was written it never made sense that Anakin turned to the Dark Side so quickly and so completely. But just imagine if Anakin’s compassion for the clones was what drove the wedge between him and the Jedi. Like him, they were born into slavery and conflict. Like him, they were used as pawns by an uncaring bureaucracy that saw them as little more than cannon fodder in a war most citizens had little personal stake in. Why couldn’t that be the reason he switched sides instead of “I had a bad dream that my wife was having complications in childbirth but we can’t consult an OB/GYN because they aren’t covered in my health plan”?
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People seeing the Jedi as the good guys always ,are me wince-The Jedi kind of suck, actually
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Ah, they’ve done this kind of thing before. They’ll get around to picking up the story around… {counts on fingers … and toes} …2040.
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Well, y’see, it only looks like an assumption from a certain point of view.
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Also, the Ewoks may not have been literal slaves, but Luke did use trickery to convince them that their magical, angry god wanted them to fight in his war or else. So that’s not much of a choice, really.
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Did he though? I thought it was clear that he used the force to affect that die, but then again Watto was probably trying to cheat anyway.
Qui-Gon was gambling on the outcome of the podrace, which he had little control over and could have easily ended in Anakin’s death. The die roll was just about upping the stakes of the bet he’d already made.
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