Don’t report the pregnancy but file an amended return the year after the child is born?
I can’t help but feel that some people are missing the point here?
Intentionally so, I’d wager.
I hate this stupid timeline…
When your rights are an intellectual exercise to show how clever someone is, it kind of sucks.
Even with an actual infant, they wouldn’t.
Up to one year old, anyway.
After that, it’s “fuck you; pay me.”
Up to one year old, anyway
following the legal stupidity of this, a child in georgia is now 1 year old just two to three months after being born.
the effects for pregnant people due to all this is horrific, the implications for law ridiculous
the effects for pregnant people due to all this is horrific, the implications for law ridiculous
ETA: $HERSELF (former med tech) adds that even if you go searching for an embryo in the discharge, needles in haystacks are much easier than embryos amongst the bloody clots.
Been there, done that a few times myself. When you know you’re pregnant – and want to be – you know what you’re looking at, but otherwise there’s no way to distinguish a miscarriage in the first 3 months from a bad period.
But they still have to give you a D&C, to make sure there’s nothing left from the placenta that could cause an infection and thus potentially cause sterility.
Oh wait, sorry, that’s the Before Times. Now, if you miscarry, you’re probably a murderer, so there’s no way you’re going to get a medically-protective D&C after that.
Among all the other dystopian points raised here, this also feels like a trap to get people to report their pregnancies to the government as early as possible, which seems like a terrible idea under the present circumstances. Even if in specific cases people see the trap for what it is and avoid it, this still normalizes the idea that it is law enforcements’ business if you are pregnant.
That is your major concern here? Really?
I can’t help but feel that some people are missing the point here?
Not at all. The whole system the GQP are building for their rabid base is anti-body autonomy and every other kind of autonomy for women; that’s so obvious and disgusting. I just find it interesting that they are generating potential points of failure in the tax system in their quest to ‘prove’ that a fetus is a person.
One of the other terrible, terrible checkpoints that the fuckers are celebrating is that every single miscarriage is a potential felony and can be investigated by law enforcement. If you don’t have the resources to defend yourself, you may very well end up in prison.
And who gets abused by the justice system the most?
Probably not a federal crime because something something states’ rights.
detectable human heartbeat
That’s… contradictory, when talking about six-week pregnancies. The “heartbeat” of a six-week embryo isn’t actually, in any way, a heartbeat, much less a “human heartbeat.” It’s basically a rhythmic fluttering that you can get even with a handful of heart cells in a petri dish. It’s been mis-described in order to be weaponized by forced birthers. So I guess this is just another case where conservative law doesn’t match reality, giving all sorts of wiggle room to not apply in any rational way, or with any consistency, if they don’t want it to, but yet it would still function as a way of sneaking “fetal personhood” into the law without actually having to engage in that legal battle.
“detectable human heartbeat (which may occur as early as six weeks’ gestation)” isn’t a real thing.
It doesn’t match up with reality or existing law in multiple ways - which makes me think this is just a trap, a way of getting anti-abortion laws in the books that could never actually be used to give a tax break to a pregnant woman.
the implications for law ridiculous
And of course they’ll simply ignore many of the implications of the law, leaving citizens off balance, never sure when it applies and when it doesn’t.
Probably not a federal crime
Not yet anyways.
What about couples that have dozens of embryos frozen at the fertility clinic? OR Why wouldn’t everyone just bank several dozen frozen embryos for the tax shelter it provides?
Georgia’s code referenced here is absurdly vague, which will lead to selective and false prosecutions. For example, it specifies detectable “human” heartbeat. How does the effect of this regulation change if the doctor thinks the heartbeat sounds like a sheep? What is “detectable?” What if the woman cannot afford the technology to “detect?” What if it’s a steady and repetitive muscle spasm that’s not in a heart? The list goes on. O.C.G.A. 1 - 2 - 1 Defining persons and corporations
which will lead to selective and false prosecutions.
So it will work as intended then…
Why wouldn’t everyone just bank several dozen frozen embryos for the tax shelter it provides?
Because it is very expensive without insurance and the insurance won’t pay for it if it isn’t medically necessary. On top of that, it would only apply to state taxes, not federal.
But it probably shuts down claiming frozen embryos.
Someone could have built quite a tax dodge on the promise of eventually thawing them out.
So if you miscarry, you’ll also be charged with tax fraud as well as murder.
Probably not unless you’re claiming a bunch of embryos made for IVF, but even then that’d be fraud because it asks for a detectable “heartbeat”.
I would say, probably yes. In fact, I would argue they’ll be charged with murder while in the act of tax fraud. The argument will be that the murder occurred specifically to allow the tax fraud.
There’s no way to look at this and not see a dystopian future. There are quite literally no other outcomes.
PS: Every time I see one of these stories or interviews, I want to ask the person to give up a kidney. Immediately, today, right after the interview. It would save someone’s life. If they’re unwilling to do it, murder charge and lock them up. That would at least be consistent with what they’re asking for. Just as dystopian too.