Strategic butt-coverings in video-games

Took a poll, did you? Or are you just in the habit of taking it upon yourself to act as the official representative of over half of humanity?

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And were you acting as their representative when you said the ship wasn’t sinking?

Yet you can’t understand how harping on one data point or lack thereof in a complex historical trend is plain stupid and indicates little to nothing.

Your claim of “agenda” is far, far more Fox News than the work that you critique.

In more ways than one.


In this game, Tomb Raider (2013) or in “videogames in general”? I literally clicked through 10 different Google results for “Tomb Raider 2013 feminist review” and I didn’t see mention of elements that were problematic to feminists in this game. Instead, I read near universal praise. Please, read the sources yourself if you don’t believe me.

I agree that videogames in general, depending on where you sit on the “it’s OK for videogames to be gendered” divide, have some way to go on representations of women. But that’s an argument that is so general as to be useless. Focusing on specifics helps – but focusing on Tomb Raider (2013) is bizarre since it’s literally some of the best real, tangible, practical evidence in the industry that videogames can improve dramatically in the way that they represent women.

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Dude, keep that mansplaining cream coming. It’ll go great with the pie we make from all those cherries you’ve been picking!

As for further convo with you, I’m done. I get enough of that kind of male-pattern deafness IRL.


“All I’m saying is, there’s a market for Zyklon B, and its our fiduciary duty to our shareholders to maximize their value.”


All these comments. And for what? Defending pixel butts?


Is bringing up the Therac-25 programming error cherry picking data, or is it acknowledging that an outlier occurrence is still significant and gives us insight into industry practices, and what we should try to avoid?

This is older than Tomb Raider, and still being taught.


If you want a conversation to end YOU have to stop participating in it.

Or we could make fun of you until you run home with your tail between your legs.

And then follow you and tie cans to your tail.

And release goats to chase the cans.

Goats with fricken laser beams on their heads.


“The Therac-26 killed even less people, so no need to go on and on about the 25 anymore, unless you’ve got some sort of anti-programmer access to grind.”

“access” := “axe”


“You get that the whole reason she was in a flimsy robe when the plumber came was because the thermostat was broken and the house was hot, right? Plot!”


ebin banter m8.

Look up Godwins law

Godwin’s law (or Godwin’s rule of Nazi analogies) is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1.

Jargon File:
[Usenet] “As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.” There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin’s Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. However there is also a widely- recognized codicil that any intentional triggering of Godwin’s Law in order to invoke its thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful. Godwin himself has discussed the subject. See also Formosa’s Law.


I haven’t been paying attention, but thanks, excepting that I don’t Steam or console I only PC/Mac games and don’t play movie games at all. For instance the last game I played today was Banished, which I keep coming back to, and I check in on EVE occasionally, but the last time I had the kind of time to game required of most play-through games… I can’t even remember, I played Oblivion but never Skyrim, So it was some time ago. Gaming for me is like TV nowadays, 22 minutes or less.

So this is up for grabs, eh?

No, I was making the tremendous crazy logical leap from “things are slowly getting better” to “things are not getting worse.”

With that I had better withdraw from this conversation before I start namecalling.

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This is as bad as the Godwin’s law incident earlier. Are people dying because of pixel butts?

Never mind that despite the “near impossibility” of seeing batman’s butt claimed in the very text of the bb entry, you can get plenty of batt-butt views writhin a minute of powering up Arkham Knight. But you know, impossible because … reasons? Somehow it doesn’t matter if the examples used in the video are not just cherry picked and distorted to support a particular narrative but even flat-out wrong, because the cause is so noble and just?

Maybe I have too much of a logical programmer brain to let that go, but it bothers me, and has since the beginning. And it keeps happening in these videos.

Anyways. If you want to see an amazing, powerfully feminist take on Tomb Raider, one that has been near universally acclaimed by both feminists and plain old gamers like me, and is one of the most striking examples of videogames getting it right, which correct me if I am wrong but is the entire freaking point of these videos in the first place, just take me up on my offer for a free Steam copy of Rise of the Tomb Raider.

I do feel these discussions would be a hell of a lot better if the people involved had actually played any of the games being discussed. Hence my offer.

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Are the batt-butt views automatic, or do you have to work for them?


The creature stirred in his sickly broiling vapour, and at that very moment the words, “Are the batt-butt views automatic, or do you have to work for them?” drifted across the conference table.


Silicon chips.

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