Learning to make your own boots, rope and really good clothing build character… otherwise you die.
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Sure. You can look at it that way.
We should still be guilty for thousands of years of slavery also by that reconing .
Why, when MEC is right around the corner?
And I built my own tube guitar amplifier for the simple satisfaction of doing it, much like climbing a mountain I suppose.
I gave it to my oldest son for Christmas.
And Marxists have clean hands?
From your first sentence, where you equate socialism with my “inverted Maslow’s hierarchy” example, I would say you just plain misread what I said. I accused libertarianism of inverting the triangle by valuing self-actualization higher than food and safety and then having a fantasy that somehow safety (i.e., a lack of conquering warlords) will result.
Personal responsibility is an empty term that all political philosophies can throw at each other. Libertarianism promotes personal responsibility because you have to look after yourself, but it also looks like irresponsibility when you think of how people are required to treat others or the environment. Socialism promotes personal responsibility because you have duties to your community, but it also looks like irresponsibility if you think of the consequences to an individual who doesn’t “pull their weight.” It’s better to talk about how people behave in a society,why and what effects that will have, than to ascribe moralistic personality traits that could mean anything.
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Sure.
I equated any and all modern western politics to socialism.
Human behaviour in a community is vastly different to political knob- polishing.
Oh, you did? I must have missed that. Wow, that seems like a silly thing to do.
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As industry becomes more expensive in N.A. what else have we got?
The service industry is propelled by tax dollars that aren’t being earned any longer.
When you say, “what else have we got” it assumes I know what the excluded thing is. I wouldn’t want to make assumptions about what you are trying to say, that might have gotten me into trouble had I taken offense at your first comment toward me.
By this do you mean that we keep making more dollars without making real wealth (e.g. food, shelter, cars, gold-plated helicopters) to match the currency increase? If so I’d agree that is a problem. Are you proposing a solution?
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Find ways to attract industry.
I don’t know about the gokd-plated helicopters though, I think saddams sons are dead.
Yeah, let’s do that.
But Donald Trump is alive.
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Industry is what created this playground. …so that we can disparage it.
HI IVE COME TO YOUR PARTY TO TELL YOU ITS A SHITTY PARTY AND YOU ARE SHITTY PEOPLE FOR ENJOYING YOURSELVES AND IM GOING TO STAY HERE SHITTING IN THE PUNCHBOWL UNTIL YOU AGREE WITH ME
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Maybe you thought I was being sarcastic? No, I actually think that finding new ways to attract industry is a good idea. We are in agreement. I imagine if you ever hazarded something more than a vague one liner we might no longer be in agreement, but I don’t think I’ll ever know. Yes, let’s find ways to attract industry. Sounds good.
Good good.
Workers of this nation created this playground and they accomplished it with solidarity. Otherwise, we would have created hell on Earth along with horrific working conditions (for adults and children) within the United States that we’d be suffering through to this day.
You can thank aspects of socialism for that.
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Sure…
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/industry
I mean, somewhere in there, it is hard to argue that industry didn’t play a key role, right? Let’s find ways to increase productivity, or creativity, or good-things-happeningness. But let’s not actually risk saying anything about what we think the methods for improving those are, because the moment we did that, someone might show us that we were wrong either with evidence or with stronger argumentation than we ourselves can muster. Let us enter a discussion about one political philosophy (say, “libertarianism”) with a criticism of another political philosophy (say “socialism”) without even the courage to say that libertarianism is a good thing or that socialism and libertarianism are opposed. Let us say nothing that we can actually be tied to, nothing that can be argued with, nothing that we can’t deny we said or meant.
Let us be as clever as our fragile egos will allow!
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