Maybe I exaggerated when I said extremely likely. I donât have any statistics handy. However, people certainly get charged and convicted for killing officers in these situations.
oops, weâre talking about the same guy in one of our articles.
Mr. Guy does not seem to have been exonerated yet though.
That first link is the same case I noted. I know the prosecutor is seeking the death penalty, but that case is still ongoing. Iâd hope that the other case I linked to would serve as precedent to get this one thrown out too.
But yeah, looks like the other case the guy got 10 years. I also see in that article a reference to a cop getting away with killing someoneâŠ
I wonder what the judgeâs level of responsibility is. It depends on how the law is worded, but I definitely agree with your implicit hunch that there are judges out there who are rubber stamping things when they are supposed to be voice of reason and an important part of the process.
At the same time, what are the cops thinking? They are intentionally putting themselves into a potentially deadly situation for no readily available reason.
The only person whose actions make any sense in this case are those of the guy who ended up dead. I mean, I think defending your home with deadly force is probably a bad idea in most cases. But if youâve just been burgled and you see people apparently coming back for more, I can understand being actually afraid for your life.
Civil Forfeiture is a very lucrative source of funds/equipment for police departments, so there is some motivation there (no conviction necessary for forfeiture). See a big police pick-up/other odd vehicle â it will often have a bumper sticker stating that it was obtained via civil forfeiture. Large farms/etc used to get raided because if they found a single joint on the property it could be claimed and sold at auction.
edit to add missing âonâ
Iâm going to go with felony murder here for every officer involved in the raid, including those who didnât actually go on the raid.
The cops SHOULD know that when the collar a bad guy and they give information to get off that the information is highly suspect. Thus they should have known there very well might not have been drugs there, thus the warrant should not have been issued in the first place.
Since the improper raid should be at least a felonyâŠ
The cops should not be shielded form the consequences of their actions. A reasonable person would not have acted on a tip from a felon about drugs requiring shooting a man in his home. These officers of the law are out of control and need to spend the next 20 years behind bars.The war on drugs is insane and must be stopped ASAP before more innocent people are killed by out of control lawmen who are some times as bad as they killers they chase.
Hereâs a fresh one:
Colorado family stunned: Cop breaks in, fatally shoots man in back, and âno one knows whyâ
Sara Lindenmuth is the victim's sister-in-law. She said Jack Jacquez came home just before 2 a.m. Then, she said a police officer forced down the front door and the two men started shouting.âHe was standing next to his mom, his back turned toward the officer and then he shot him twice in the back and then pepper sprayed him. Then they hand cuffed his fiancĂ©, for reasons I donât know why. And the mom went to call the cops and the cop took her phone and threw it against the wall,â said Lindenmuth.
She said the victimâs family is left with a lot of questions for police.
âHe just showed up. No one knows why he just showed up. It just all happened unexpectedly,â said Lindenmuth.
Until I read that the officer who fired the shots had been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation, my thoughts were that it was a hired assassin impersonating a cop.
Pepper spraying the guy after shooting him twice in the back, wtf?
I try to make sense of these things when I read them, and the only thing I can imagine that could drive an otherwise-sane, not-dirty cop to that sort of homicidal rage is pretty damned awful.
Out of respect for the dead man, I will not speculate until more information becomes available.
In Toronto some police tasered a guy after putting a bunch of bullets in him not too long ago. I canât think of any motive to taser or pepper spray someone after shooting them other than to create a cover story where you sprayed or shocked him first and then were forced to use lethal force when he kept coming.
I suppose psychosis or hallucination is also a possibility.
Sounds like the victim wasnât an angel (long rap sheet), but still canât imagine what would justify the officerâs response.
Itâs amazing how the phrase âwasnât an angelâ is typically used to mean âwasnât human enough to worry about whether they got shot to death or not.â When you say someone wasnât an angel, you have to immediately qualify that they didnât deserve to die, as if the phrase implied that they did.
Reminded me of the recent article regarding historic bias in NYTimes reporting and the use of the phrase: âno angelâ
Civil Forfeiture sounds like a pretty reasonable explanation for their wanting the warrant. The SWAT team was going in to finish the job of robbing this guy. If someone dies during the commission of a robbery, anyone whoâs accessory to the robbery is now accessory to murder.
The fact that some corrupt judge was also in on this deal, doesnât magically make the crime go away. They went in hoping to seize the guys house, came out with a corpse. Thatâs murder whether or not itâs a cop who does it.
âHe wasnât an angel before we killed him, but now he isâ (Or yeah, given the way we feel about his worthless life, he probably went to the other place)
Letâs leave talk about angels back in the middle ages where they belong. Talking about a dead person being an angel or not is just plain creepy.
14 The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. 15 His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters. 16 In his right hand he held seven stars, and coming out of his mouth was a sharp, double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.
Yeah, I donât think Iâve ever met anyone who was an angel.
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