The history of the stereotyped "Asian" melodic riff

@Bobo & @Eksrae Thanks for pointing those out. :smile:

The Yoshida Bros. were great, I’ll have to look into some of their of their other work. Though for my tastes the shamisens got drown out by the other instruments a bit much at times. But maybe I’m just not a fan of that style accompaniment.

The Gayageum playing on the other hand was a really satisfying fusion (IMHO).

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Don’t tell Paul Simon you know that.

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And it seems like it was DESIGNED with that sort of play that Hendrix had to coax out of the guitar…Getting that tremello by adjusting the tension on the other side of the bridge…I wonder if she had to use some sort of alternate tuning…

They’ve got a fair amount of work that’s mostly shamisen with little accompaniment. That one is one of the big flashy/fairly westernized ones that draws people in though :smile: .

Well, with a name like ā€œSol Bloomā€, I’m pretty sure he had Middle-Eastern roots of some sort, if not of the Arabian kind…

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That approach has been both formalized and generalized :smile:

Just gotta say — I love this entire thread!

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Certainly possible, though Wikipedia says his parents were Polish-Jewish immigrants.

I suspect she’s not tuning the gayageum specially. Most of what she does on the other side of the bridge is less getting a vibrato (tremolo is either a rapid repeat of the pitch or a rapid pulsation of the pitch’s amplitude) than sharping the pitch to bring it in tune, although she does add pitch bends and so forth as well. I’m pretty sure that the gayageum is a diatonic instrument, so she’d need to do that to get chromatic notes.

You’ll see it here very clearly, near the end where she adjusts her lowest string in a repeating riff. She isn’t getting a pitch bend or vibrato - the note is coming out pretty cleanly.

I’m not quite sure what she’s doing with her left hand when she takes out her pick and strums - damping some of the strings so that only the chord tones sound, maybe.

I didn’t mean that she was tuning it while playing, I was wondering whether to play western music the gayageum had been tuned differently…

Dunno, to be honest. I suspect it’s going to depend on the musician and the circumstances. The way the gayageum is tuned is by moving the bridges, so it’s a case of setting it up early and leaving it during a gig. I’m pretty sure the standard tuning is going to be a heptatonic scale in something closer to just intonation than equal temperament. That can be usable as is with a bit of on-the-fly adjustment (and will sound very sweet in diatonic solo work). Whether she changes to equal temperament for Western music, I don’t know. It’s a little hard to tell with the constant left hand adjustments.

Whether they’ve brought their concert pitch for traditional music to a=440 is something else I don’t know, but that wide-bodied instrument she’s using is specifically for contemporary music, so it’s likely that she, at least, has. (The traditional gayageum has either 12 or 21 strings.)

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