The Minnesotan left-wing economic miracle continues, while neighboring Republican states slowly collapse

I’m not following why pointing out the racial homogeneity of MN and it’s factoring into socialist success is being called racist. It’s pretty clear worldwide that the 2 are linked. People are tribal, and generally far more willing to be charitable to people who look and act like them. Not everyone, but let’s be real.

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Are you one of those possible alligators that I should beware of?

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Observation =/= advocacy

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To answer your question.

Because people are not tribal unless they choose to be tribal. That choice is what makes it racism.

Furthermore, the population in MN is not more homogenous than the surrounding states. It is the diversity and vitality of its urban areas that make it the blue state that it is.

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But observing and commenting on that racism isn’t racist.

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Why cut on the race angle?

It’s equally true to say that the average income of someone in MN is $58,000/year, so the narrative may as well be “middle-class voters of all races and creeds combine to tax the hell out of the rich, and it is a rousing success. This might not work anywhere where there’s more rich people like California or New York, because they’ll try and stop it.”

Hell, there’s probably more people under $250 k/year in MN than there are white people, as a % of the population. If you wanted to make an argument that there’s something special about this instance, that’s a much better argument to make.

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Here is a map to explore.

http://nation.maps.arcgis.com/apps/OnePane/splash/index.html?appid=c36ff619bc2a4b5e95b2a9314bd11391

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Because it’s an observable phenomenon. No the only factor, but ignoring it is ignoring uncomfortable data. As pointed out upthread there’s a strong correlation of successful socialism with homogeneity. The case can also be made for Vermont, one of the least diverse states but most liberal.

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1-What you were observing wasn’t real.
2-You were promoting segregation as a positive societal influence.

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Who was promoting anything??? Saying the trains ran on time under the Nazi’s is not promoting fascism. It’s an observation of a bias, and perhaps by studying it, it can be neutralized. And how are you proving it’s not real? Link please.

FWIW, I live in one of the most diverse cities in the country, my son is one of 3 white boys in his HS class of 180. NJ is pretty liberal, but what I’ve observed is it ends up in corruption as often as the conservative model.

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If this is the case (and I’d have to see some sort of scientific study to convince me of this), then Canada is one heck of an outlier on that graph.

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Good God man! I do believe you’ve just stumbled into another refuge for scoundrels!

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Meh, we’re pretty fucking white up here…

In our more urban areas we’re less homogenous, but over all we’re pretty pasty.

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So observations of racism are only valid if they fit in with your narrative of racism being bad for everyone? Clearly racism was great for slave owners, I’m not advocating slavery either btw.

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Maybe the very concept of “dominant culture” is a contradiction in terms, if we are discussing a civilized society. That might be said to describe the main difference between democracy and populism.

I see two problems with that. First, the “differences” between groups tend to be completely superficial, coming down mostly to simplistic tribal identification. Second, the lack of ability to enforce such sharing may be deliberate, because there are not effective protections of those minorities in the first place, so elements of structural racism dismiss it as being “unworkable” with claims that they have tried really hard. Meanwhile, the Feds still collect taxes from minority groups, without providing them their requisite services.

Perceptions can be - and are - managed.

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You are well within your right to pick your own outgroups but please don’t pick mine for me. I consider the aliens from Alpha Centauri to be the only ones in my outgroup so we are very homogeneous here, 100% human. Either that or maybe I’ll pick the Conservatives in which case we are very diverse.

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Things are different in Lake Wobegon.

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Not so easily if you deny there’s an issue to begin with. That’s what the US did pre-civil rights.

Well it’s great to hear that you’re willing to draw the line at slavery. (wtf?)

And no, I really don’t think racism is good for anyone. Those whom it ostensibly benefits actually get eaten from the inside by it. Not to mention being led around by the nose by it.

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Not a planet I would choose to live on. What would we have to eat?

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