What’s obvious about it? For someone (like me) who missed the post that seems to have caused a thread shit storm there’s nothing even there that can be said to be obvious. It’s just gone and all that’s left is a weird series of reactions to something.
I guess we’ll just have take everyone’s word for it. Which is fine since it’s just a comments thread on a website.
I was actually being sarcastic, but you’re right about the impact of the austerity measures. I think Portugal also proved the point.
Sorry I’m late to the thread. did I miss much?
*scrolls up*
What the actual fuck?
The TGOP base won’t buy that… How about we split the country and see what happens when one side does what Minnesota did and the other side follows the Kansas model? Pretty sure we’ll see the same thing happen.
The TGOP wants a small government that only has a huge military and tells people how to live. Outside of that, the states or private sector does it.
I’ve been following the thread and I don’t even know what is going on anymore.
Yeah, seriously.
I don’t really even want to be commenting. But, you know, as long as @anon50609448’s post above is not even responded to I’m just going to go ahead and assume that anyone who tries to pull a “my state is too diverse for Keynesianism / progressive economic policies” is simply being racist.
Hey y’all, what I remember getting deleted was a list of the ethnic backgrounds of Minnesotan white folks and their demographic percentages, the racist implication being that that relative racial and ethnic homogeneity has something to do with the state’s economic success.
Edit: oh, and then someone else posted MN’s straight black versus white percentages, a comment that got rightfully zapped even quicker than the first one did.
Nope.
He did make some omelettes though!
(Or wait, was that Stalin?)
Man, you had to he there. You missed it! Epic!!
Big fan of risotto, apparently:
A week or so back, one of the threads got briefly diverted into a short but engaging discussion on Strasserism. At the time, I thought it was of historical interest only.
Jesus.
Neither one minded cracking a few eggheads.
OTOH…
You are not the only one to think that may be the case.
The problem is that a lot of data suggests that countries with more robust welfare states tend to have stronger far-right movements. Providing white voters with higher levels of economic security does not tamp down their anxieties about race and immigration — or, more precisely, it doesn’t do it powerfully enough. For some, it frees them to worry less about what it’s in their wallet and more about who may be moving into their neighborhoods or competing with them for jobs.
While I highly approve of the boosterism of the great state of Minnesota and it’s fantastic governor, I do have one nit to pick. That would be the age of the article. Almost 2 years old. Now, if you can find another recent one, Woohoo! Sadly, right now Dayton gets to deal with a Republican majority in the House and Senate and they can’t even get our driver’s license snafu (one side thinks RealID is a plot to register all Americans for concentration camps, the other wants illegal immigrants to be eligible for Driver’s Licenses) worked out.
Note, not endorsing either side of the Driver’s License fracas. Just pointing out the gulf between the two sides of the issue.
Venezuela didn’t fail because of socialism, particularly, but because they relied far too heavily on one product, petroleum. European socialist countries have diversified economies, which protect them from any particular industry or resource tanking. Bad management will damage any system, regardless of politics. Even if you take the Greek example, you can call them badly managed (a defensible claim), but it’s that they can’t control the value of their currency that is making them suffer so badly. Under the drachma, they’d just declare bankruptcy, depreciate the drachma, sell more and pull out of it. Not what I’d recommend, but they didn’t ask me, and it worked (sort of) for years. Now they’re having to undergo a painful cultural change.
no European country (maybe with the exception of Belarus) uses a socialist form of government. all of them are free market economies with a regulating legal framework.
Or most everyone on the “hill” are just a bunch of assholes who lie through their teeth more often then not.
Same-difference I guess!
I’ll summarize it for the “I’M IN COLLEGE! LET ME SPEW SOME ECONOMICS I JUST LEARNEDS IN CLASS TODAY!” crowd that are mucking up the comments with garbage gibberish. Plus, I’m old, grumpy, and want to hurt their feelings!
Guy mostly in charge of Minnesota is not an asshole, magically making life better for everyone. Scientists and college kids baffled.
