How are they on bloat/spyware?
What happens between myself, the 2nd party, and the fbi/homeland security is my (our) business!
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No worse than the alternatives. Once you are in Google/Apple land, owner belongs to the phone…
I found them pretty easy to dump their own apps from and that they ran fast (considering the price particularly) suggesting a bit less adware bloat behind the scenes. If they get accepted back into the US ecosystem again I imagine they won’t be allowed to remain so corporate spyware free.
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True. Unfortunately the consumer electronics (and many other) markets are dancing to the tune of unlimited growth and feature expansion - which us sensible people know is unattainable/unsustainable.
While in South Korea a few weeks ago, I visited the Samsung Innovation Museum - part of the Samsung Electronics HQ campus in Suwon. It’s not a small place overall:
And they are building a new, larger site just north near Pyeongtaek.
The museum was really well done - top floor started with the history of electricity, from the Greeks starting to figure out static electricity, through Leyden jars and generators, to Edison and Tesla.
Next were home appliances - refrigerators and washing machines, with stories of the reduced burden on the ‘lady of the house’. On to radio, television (fair play to them, this section had everything from an original electro mechanical 240/405 line Baird set, along with first gen Sony HD sets), and mobile phones.
Finally the lowest floor had current gen Samsung kit - foldable phones (with obvious crease in their display), and some other stuff:
Massive 8k TV - looked amazing; likelihood of 8k native transmissions pretty slim right now (and I speak as someone who has worked in broadcast electronics since 1990)
56" set with a built in mechanism to rotate it from landscape to portrait when you want to browse Instagram etc 
A washer/dryer that used AI to work out the optimal timings based on the wash load…
and finally an American style massive double door refrigerator with a vertical 36 inch LCD on the front, to allow browsing, TV watching, recipe display - and AI interpretation from the internal cameras on what you might want to cook from what it thought was in the fridge. 
Killer apps are few and far between it seems.
(sorry for the lengthy rant, it’s been bugging me for weeks and I’ve not had the space to vent).
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