Trump elected president

I’m just replying to apologize to others for taking your troll bait. Don’t worry, it won’t happen again.


This is what I said.

You reply with HRC is not a neocon. Bait and switch?

I point out that she is endorsed by 9/10 neocons which directly addresses whether her policies would be considered attractive to neocons.

You respond with Im too busy to argue and you are off the point on Syria.

And Im the troll?

I can’t say he has either. The guy is the proverbial “Man born on 3rd base who acts like he hit a triple”


I suppose a few weeks ago Trump or someone in his camp heard the myth that DC was built on a swamp and thought they might seem clever using the phrase. :frowning2:


Ugh… i couldn’t stomach much of that. The words pot, kettle and black sprang to mind.


Yeah I feel for you!

Possibly the college debt one? Free education should be a right, not a privilege.


Just came back from a road trip, else I’d have replied sooner…: I just now found Glenn Greenwald’s echo of what I’d said then, what I said at Brexit, and what I said now. Lifting the second paragraph from his screed:

The indisputable fact is that prevailing institutions of authority in the West, for decades, have relentlessly and with complete indifference stomped on the economic welfare and social security of hundreds of millions of people. While elite circles gorged themselves on globalism, free trade, Wall Street casino gambling, and endless wars (wars that enriched the perpetrators and sent the poorest and most marginalized to bear all their burdens), they completely ignored the victims of their gluttony, except when those victims piped up a bit too much — when they caused a ruckus — and were then scornfully condemned as troglodytes who were the deserved losers in the glorious, global game of meritocracy.

It’s worth the time to read the whole thing and to follow the links Mr. Greenwald always provides to support his points.

For those who find Greenwald a little to wordy, you go through Michael Moore’s post-election list on Facebook [shudder…facebook].

Everyone must stop saying they are “stunned” and “shocked”. What you mean to say is that you were in a bubble and weren’t paying attention to your fellow Americans and their despair. YEARS of being neglected by both parties, the anger and the need for revenge against the system only grew.

Edited to add: Oops! Cory also posted a link to the Greenwald’s opinion piece.


Yes you are right. With the proviso that education should be allocated by “merit” where resources are scarce.

Thank you. Now please go to local party meetings and get people you like voted to leadership positions in the local parties, so that they can support people you like getting into positions at the state level; these are the people who help craft platform and choose superdelegates. This is how the DLC took power in the 80s, and how Sanders supporters can take back the party. It is also a way that people in very red states can still have influence on the national elections. (I stopped doing this for a while because I kept moving and then I was in safe blue states, but I’m properly angry at myself for it.)


Actually I’ve already looked into it but it’s a little opaque. There’s a county committee, elected or selected by someone(s), but nothing about meetings. Haven’t given up yet, though.


So can we expect a rise in private prisons and more criminal charges for copyright infringement?

With pot getting legal they will need another way of filling seats and on the plus side they will get indentured IT workers.

On the other plus side those people get free housing and health care.


You could try contacting someone in the party and asking how you “can help.”

One of the advantages of the caucus system - I’ve experienced this in Iowa, Minnesota, and Hawaii - is that in presidential election years local party business is usually right at the caucus, either just before or just after the presidential caucus, so it is easy to get involved at the same time you are thinking about politics.


Occam: allegiance to white supremacy is a stronger political motivator than gender identification.


Perhaps Herr Drumpf will go apeshit at one of his pending trials and be found in contempt? Would that be enough for faithless electors to switch their Electoral College vote to the person that received the majority of votes?


“Why do you keep saying Trump is the White Supremacist candidate? That’s inflammatory, insulting and uncalled for.” —annoyed Trump voters

“Hot damn, we got ourselves an ally in the White House!” —KKK, Neo-Nazis, Aryan Nation


Remember that pot is still illegal federally and that states making it legal doesn’t change that. Under Obama the policy was to let states have their way. Rudy Giuliani will be the next AG, so whether that policy will continue is in question.


Why is his site still soliciting donations and recurring donations? Is it normal to do so post-election?


Yes. Sad to say. But make them a better offer or they will do a deal with someone who offers them something rather than those who offer them nothing.