Trump goes it alone on North Korea. What could go wrong, other than nuclear war?

Keep digging. Why was it hard to hold territory in Vietnam? Why did the French meet with similar failure?

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Dear Mr. Kim,

Don’t worry about returning our little Donnie in one piece, or at all. You can keep him for as long as you want.

Yours Truly,

Mike Pence

NK’s air force is barely functional and lacks any kind of parity with ROK and US forces. However it is still very useful for asymmetrical warfare such as supporting Special Operations Forces

“Thus, while admittedly primitive, North Korean air forces cannot necessarily be written off. If led by a clever commander, they might still be able to do some damage in a conflict they have been training for decades to fight.”

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Trump has Kissinger beat for most other bodily fluids though.

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I think their massive amount of artillery is the biggest threat. I think everyone knows that NK wouldn’t win directly against SK, but they would make the cost so high that of course calling a first strike is of the table (even with out nukes).

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You are absolutely right.

The grim joke is that both Kim Jong and Donald Trump want to fight to the very last South Korean. Any conflict with North Korea will result in artillery and conventional ballistic missiles raining down on Seoul.

Seoul being a metropolitan area of 25 million people. Larger than the entire population of North Korea and the center of a major economic powerhouse in the region.

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There’s a song about it:

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my favorite from that disc is

(duet between John Hinkley and Squeaky Fromme)

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The theory is that NK sold chemical weapons to Syria. That’s a much cheaper tech tree than nuclear missiles.

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So what is this from - a musical?

yeah.

https://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/28/theater/review-theater-sondheim-and-those-who-would-kill.html?pagewanted=all

Stephen Sondheim.

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Gotta build those Cadillac s somewhere.

The PRC can’t control the DPRK without invading it. I don’t know when China lost influence on the Kim’s, but they clearly did as the DPRK is the closest to a perfect dictatorship that’s existed this side of the Bronze Age; the arguments here that the DPRK is “improving” are dubious. You’re talking about a place where the main activity is boot-licking and politicking among every individual at all times; one wrong look or just being in the wrong place at the wrong time is a torture-until-death sentence. The 0.001% of the DPRK live in what can, at times, be considered the “modern” world. But the rest of the country is obviously medieval.

That is a fair point - the number I cited is given as ‘democide’ which I take to mean deliberate mass murders of civilians by soldiers and guerillas in the vein of the My Lai massacre. And the decision not to include casualties from bombing campaigns (conducted almost exclusively by US forces) is certainly… politically charged.

The reason lies probably in part in the gradually changing attitudes on this particular form of warfare. During WWII, it was applied extensively by the Allies (in retaliation to German attacks on England) and often without substantive military justification - e.g. Dresden, estimated 25 000 casualties from that bombing alone. And since this conflict is rightfully claimed as a triumph of moral good over moral evil, nobody wanted to muddy the framing by examining too closely whether the Allies weren’t in effect committing war crimes all the time by deliberately targeting the civilian population. And thus this strategy remained ethically acceptable much longer than it should have.

Ironically, the Nazi’s deciding to purposefully attack London (which was first done an accident), not only didn’t do much in the way of limiting the UKs wartime production of arms, but increased enlistment numbers.

No, in America you get imprisoned often because of your skin color . We do indeed have it so much better here thanks for clarifying.

Nope, Tony Cermak was the mark allright. He had seriously, um, displeased the Chicago outfit.

Source:
Gus Russo The Outfit - The Role Of Chicago’s Underworld In The Shaping Of Modern America

https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/the-outfit-9781582341767/

A truly fascinating read.

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