TSA officer grabbed Native American woman's braids, snapped them and said "Giddy up!"

Yeah… that’s exactly what I said. The problem is that nobody actually made that explicit. Instead they were jumping on the part that wasn’t problematic in itself.

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Did you not see MY VERY FIRST ANGRY POST in this thread? PLENTY of us made the fact that THIS WAS A RACIST ACT explicit and argued for that point OVER AND OVER AND OVER in this very thread.

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I’m still not sure what you’re saying. As @anon61221983 pointed out, that’s been the criticism from post#1.

Which part is the “part that wasn’t problematic in itself”?

Because @anon29537550’s post that you replied to makes it look like you don’t have a problem with making fun of Native Americans’ culture. That’s not a good look.

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I re-read and got that they were angry about the racist assault… but they seem to think they are the only ones who sees it, when several of us have very much been arguing that this was indeed a racist act.

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I agree, completely. The TSA is nothing but a series of desperate knee-jerk reactions to a mess we created by engaging in clandestine and not-so-clandestine violence around the world on a routine basis over the years based on ideological motivations and greed.

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I don’t have a problem with in general making fun of cultural elements. docosc made it really sound as if making fun of cultural elements was the problem in kmmcrory’s snide aside of “magical thinking”, rather than the particular target.

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I was not, in fact, talking about the racist act of the TSA goon. Yes, of course, there’s plenty of condemnation of that. I was responding to docosc talking about kmmccrory’s (racist) snide dismissal of a cultural practice as magical thinking.

I really wish discourse did threading better.

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It does not, so maybe quote what you intend to comment on instead of just assuming we can all read the inside of your brain and understand what you mean.

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Yes, it was the question. It wasn’t that someone touched her hair, it’s that they did it in a demeaning way that carried a shit ton of racist baggage.

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It is absolutely possible to be a racist asshole while also being dismissive of the cultural baggage your actions carry. In fact, these things are intimately tied together in this scenario. This TSA agent’s actions constituted assault, with a huge racist overlay in that “I can do this to her because she is not white.” Her dismissal of the offense and hurt caused by her violation of the cultural norms of her victim was additionally racist. I am not sure where this meme of “respecting the culture of an oppressed minority (especially when it is literally at no cost to you,) is just like accepting racism and misogyny.” It is not. It is common courtesy to not do shit that hurts other people. This is before you get to the whole respecting the personal space of any person, regardless of race, gender or etc issue.

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But it causes some harm, hmmmm?

That was the comment that I was looking for as I went through the thread here (as I knew someone could say it better than me). If you fire one person, you solve one problem. If you change the way people are trained and educated among the TSA screener core, you might solve 47,000 potential problems.

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And just what kind of contraband are they expecting there?

Thank you for your great post, and welcome. I hope you continue to participate. As for this in particular I would hope this is a universally recognized thing for all peoples, but sadly some people are all too handsy with others. In particular I never understood this obsession with wanting to randomly touch a strangers hair. This has basically become a meme among the black community.

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The lame-ass excuse I heard a fictional character say, summed it up nicely for me. “I couldn’t possibly be racist! I don’t care enough to be racist! None of this matters to me!”.

This notion that a person needs to actively, vocally hate on minorities for it to count as racism, creates a shadow in which all manner of unpleasantness can occur, without anyone feeling the need to take responsibility for it.

I imagine that changing this dynamic around takes long term strategic thinking… that I am usually too exasperated to entertain.

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