That’s something of a non-sequitur from what I said above. Why are you asking - are you seeking an advocate? If people use violence against you, then sure, shooting them might be a way to deal with it. But there are far more productive ways to use force than killing people. Also - “federal” is a very much loaded term. Federated with whom, precisely?
What do you mean “because”? If I didn’t discuss it, this was probably because - like here - I was not interested in discussing shooting people.
The Reich Wing Loony type will have a field day with this.
I’m not interested in arguing with the TSA at the gate. I genuinely want to know how to get through security. There’s conflicting statements between what the TSA is saying in the media and what they’re saying on their website.
Also, while I fully acknowledge being a smartass, I think stuff the TSA posts on its own website should have a little more weight than otherwise random statements online.
Does this mean @japhroaig is not likely to add NM and MO to his list of visited states anytime soon, or rather that he’ll race to get to both places within the next two weeks? 
So, you’re a fan of “papers please”?
It’s a fun and disturbing game, but I don’t see how it applies here.
I think immigrants are a great resource and should be treated with dignity, especially refugees. Then they should get IDs that are just as good as anybody else’s and not have to deal with any cost or hassle associated with being a human being.
Right now people in those states are what…stuck getting passports that cost way too much money?
Does Cory even read the articles he links to?
From Cory’s post: “The timing of the expiry, coupled with the lack of public debate about
the issue, has the potential for real mischief: Americans whose
Christmas holidays run long may find themselves unable to fly home
because they didn’t bring their passports with them.”
From Ars, 5th paragraph: “However, any restrictions on air travel won’t go into place without at
least 120 days’ notice, and no state has received such a notice yet. In
several states, however, restrictions on entering federal buildings
could kick in as early as January 10.”
I guess I’m just not a fan of borders, in general. They are all about keeping the “right” people in, and the “wrong” people out. I do realize that this is a pie in the sky argument, but borders and all that go with them (ID cards, passports, etc), are a means of controlling populations and their movements. I don’t like that I need an ID card to travel in my own country. Why exactly does the TSA need to verify who I am? Why am I being tracked wherever I go? Why precisely does that need to happen?
That’s my general problem with the whole thing. Why do they need to know who I am for the pleasure of paying hundreds of dollars to get somewhere fast? The onus is on the government to tell me why they need to do that, not on me, I’d argue.
Well, there I completely agree.
I was more referring with how complex it can be to simply identify yourself in this country, especially for poor people. I mean, look at all the voting registration shenanigans we’ve had…a simple universal ID would really have helped make those non issues and would make voting suddenly convenient instead of a PITA
There I also agree. I was more talking about the fact that the Homeland Security guy felt the need to disclaimer that this wasn’t a national ID thing, when it’s the one thing that would be more generally useful (again, especially for poorer people) in the context of the mess we currently live in.
I think it was you who changed the subject. It seems to be a common tactic here, that whenever I offer an opinion or ask a question where it seems easier or preferable to avoid considering the implications of, people start getting personal with me instead. So I will repeat the question here, let it stand, and speak for itself:
The subject wasn’t about “me”.
Well, why are states making it so hard to vote in the first place? The US government should be suing these states for doing so, and we should be strengthening the Voter Rights Act of 1965, not gutting it. It should be easier to vote, not harder, and I don’t think yet another layer of government bureaucracy in this case (a federal mandated ID, which will likely cost yet more money, and which will inevitable be run by the states anyway) is the solution here.
Why not? It could be used AS a voter registration card. There’s no need for them to be separate things.
It wouldn’t add bureaucracy, it’d reduce it.
The reason someone has to ask about what you said, is because what you said doesn’t even make sense on its face. A federal agency doesn’t “live” anywhere, people live places.
It sure sounded to me like you were advocating violence in some form, but again, your writing is too unclear to be sure.
So you do you want to own up to what you are trying to say or not?
But then terrorists might vote, or immigrants! And we all know that this would have a statistically significant impact on the outcome such that Bin Laden could become president. Or something.
How would it do so, since, it would likely be run by the states (as are most things that are government programs that include funding to pay for it)? Getting a passport is a huge, rather pricey bureaucratic mess, and that’s run by the Fed. But if you want almost anything else, it’s block grants given to the states, and the Fed can’t mandate how it is doled out, even though it’s federal monies.
We’re not going to fix this until we fix the voter rights act, full stop. That needs to come first, because as long as the states are in charge of issuing state IDs and in control of voting, some states will make it harder for some people to vote. I don’t think a federally issued ID card will fix it. Plus, given that much of our information is often handled by private contractors, do we really need yet another layer of information out there which can be extracted?
Donald ‘Something’ Trump?
Well he’s certainly… something.
What are you talking about - WE ALREADY HAVE A CRYPTO-MUSLIN-SOCIALIST-TERRORIST PRESIDENT!!! Everyone with a brain knows that!
What a muslin terrorist might look like.
Well yes, that sentence could be used for almost anything the TSA does…
Aaaaand now you’re on a list…
