You know, in France the majority of people weren’t for abolishing death penalty in 1981, and I don’t care if they didn’t change their minds.
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Possibly India- although, while they pass a lot of death sentences and have a relatively long list of capital crimes, they don’t actually carry out that many executions.
Please and thank you!
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He is also a proponent of executing innocents (Central Park 5)
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You mean like the open-ended declaration of war “on terrorism” that Bush declared, and nobody ever un-declared? The terrorism that’s been shown to mostly be funded by Saudi Arabia, one of Trump and Trump Jr’s favorite places?
You’re right. Nothing to see here, move along.
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This should absolutely be a part of the debate. But, we haven’t declared war against a nation state period since WWII, and thus Treason is not an eligible charge. It is a strange thing, because the military gives out medals for service during wartime for Iraq and Afghanistan too.
You ask me, spying for the Taliban, or even Saudi Arabia should be brought up as treason. But it doesn’t meet precedent. Maybe we set a new precedent, sure!
But collusion with Russia falls far short of even that.
So I stand by my original statement.
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I’m going to get outraged because I am anti-death sentence. Why are some people obsessed with vengeance rather than justice?
And before you ask, I knew someone who was killed in a mass shooting. Jamie Clark, shot in his car in the 2010 Cumbria shootings. He was a friend of my brother, he was only 23. I don’t see how killing the arsehole who did it (he killed himself after a few hours anyway) would have helped with the loss.
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You think she’d wait for him to abdicate? Or would he have an “accident?”
It’s the USA.
Executions 2018:
USA: 25
Japan: 15
India: 0 (2015: 1)
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The numbers are similarly biased for Latinx and Indigenous Americans, and also heavily tilted on the basis of economic class. And it isn’t just drug “crime”; it’s everything.
Almost everyone in the US prison system is imprisoned due to racism and/or classism. Including the guys who “actually did it”.
Yeah, most of these people currently facing execution probably did heinous things. But if they were White and wealthy, they wouldn’t be facing execution. They most probably would never have spent a night in a cell.
Yes, that’s how it’s intended to work.
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There’s the race angle also.
Trump hates/fears PoC. He knows, and everyone else knows, that the death penalty disproportionately affects PoC.1 2
What I don’t get: how is it possible that Barr is turning out to be more abysmal than Jeff Sessions. Jeff Sessions! How do you get lower than Jeff Sessions?
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Japan has a population of less than half the US (126 million people).
Just keeping the debate honest here…
Executions in Japan:
2014: 3
2015: 3
2016: 3
2017: 4
Executions in USA:
2014: 35
2015: 28
2016: 20
2017: 23
Total Number of Executions since 1993:
USA: 1299
Japan: 127
So the USA had ten times more executions than Japan had in the last 26 years while having a population size only three times larger.
BTW: India has four times the population of the USA and 26 Executions since 1991.
… like mentioning Japans population size but ignoring India’s?
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I disagree. Even if there were 0% chance of a false conviction, I would still oppose the death penalty.
It goes without saying that a few innocent men and women will always suffer, but I do not think that has ever been a very serious objection to the principle of capital punishment. Innocent men and women are just as likely to fall down a manhole which has been left uncovered. There is almost no end to the list of unpleasant things which can happen to an innocent man or woman. Someone in a Graham Greene short story, as I remember, was killed by a cow or pig falling from a balcony on his head. All these incidents provide an opportunity to ponder the fragility of human happiness, but blame must attach to the negligent man-hole coverer, balcony builder, to the stupid or cruel judge rather than to the man-hole principle, the balcony system, the idea of the death penalty.
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The main objection to killing people as a punishment is not, as I say, that innocent people will be killed. It is that killing people is wrong… So long as one sees killing as wrong there is no need to waste time with the deterrent argument, since it would be nonsense to try to prevent a theoretical evil in the future by perpetrating an actual one in the present.
— Auberon Waugh, “Another voice: Waiting for Goddard”, The Spectator, 17 June 1978.
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