hey now. we donât have any soviet gulags. not one. heck, there arenât even any soviets. so really, the soviet gulag population is now zero percent. totally zero.
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progress?
I really donât approve of the death penalty.
Especially with lethal injections involved.
It makes organ harvesting after death so difficult.
- XĂ JĂŹnpĂng
There is no death penalty in Russia, we just make people âdisappearâ permanently.
- Vladimir Putin
We donât need the death penalty, we have death squads for that.
- Most of everywhere south of the Rio Grande
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The White House could very well become the modern day Winter Palace circa 1917
Except there wonât be any winter soon.
A frigid response to a fiery call to mobilize, comrade!
Look, I totally accept that the death penalty (as most criminal penalties) are unfairly applied by race. But these five guys â far as I can tell â really did what they are accused of doing. Maybe itâs smart by Trump to have these guys go first⌠but Iâm going to lose no sleep over these guys going first.
Yeah. Kinda missed the point on this one, I guess.
Continuous flurries of death and mayhem settle like a blanket on the country as a cold wind has taken root in the nationâs capitol. An icy response to the worldâs disgust at the prospect of renewed condemnations of the least of us, as suddenly they donât deserve that with which they were naturally endowed - a life. Sliding out of control it became at some point a vehicle of a winter track of ice and now a drugged and possibly tortuous demise.
Your eloquence rings True. Change is going to come from taking the guillotine to the streets. But donât take it from a slacktivist like me.
Theyâve been already been sentenced, so yeah I see where youâre coming from, but theyâre not only going to die because of the things they did, theyâre also going to be killed as a distraction. That is horrifying to think about.
Given the timing of this serves as distraction as well as a show of power, and the way that the US president equates attacks on his actions as attacks on America and how he sells nostalgia for an idealized past, I think some the ideas discussed in this podcast are handy to keep in mind.
Foucault, Discipline and punishment.
Edit: Added a sentence for clarity.
This is just one step in many to prepare the people for the establishment of the New Authoritarian Order.
As mentioned we are well past step one. This is about âMaking America White Againâ.
A couple of years ago, it came up as a ballot question in California. âShould we abolish the death penalty?â I voted to abolish it, disturbed that it was even still a thing.
But even more disturbed when I read the results. The proposition failed with 47% in support of abolition and 53% against. Thatâs not even particularly close. And thatâs in California!
If you oppose the death penalty at all, for reasons of morality, religion, fairness, monetary or merely virtue signaling, you still need you oppose it for these guys. The DoJ chose these guys first because theyâre guilty as hell, and theyâre particularly heinous crimes. But if youâre okay with these guys, youâre ok with the death penalty, and weâre just quibbling over were to draw the line.
To oppose the death penalty means opposing the death penalty for any crime, not just those that arenât notorious.
There was a great article thatâs impossible to find now because every result is the new resumption of executions, but it argued that Dylann Roof, the Charleston church shooter, was the perfect candidate with which to oppose the death penalty. Iâd argue these guys count too.
Donât not cry for them dying, cry for killing done in our names.
Totally. The crimes are heinous. But there have been many Death Row inmates who have confessed to the crime they were accused of, who were exonerated later by physical evidence or witness testimony. Fundamentally, thatâs what is wrong with capital punishment; thereâs no undo button when thereâs an oopsies.
I read âDiscipline and Punishâ as an undergrad in the mid-80âs and it was one of the first books that dramatically changed my perspective on power and institutional punishment. On the other hand I still hate the obfuscationialism (!) of his writing style.
Cruelty is the point when youâre a Republican. If you canât make a non-white weep and beg and grovel before you put one into his head thereâs just no point in being a Conservative America-Firster.
Who says he will leave office? And when he does President Ivanka Trump will pardon him.
Among democracies, I think Japan is the most keen on executions
