Nah, he’d have chosen a Dalek to make himself less obviously alien.
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Agreed, though much of it was likely a protest vote and perhaps not likely to be repeated. In 5 years when Labour are at risk, the tactical Reform votes will all revert to Tory, if the Tories have a chance of winning. (Well, I hope so.)
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Sadly, that depends on exactly how the coming civil war within the tory party plays out- They could end up permanently split from Reform, or merge into them, or go back to eclipsing them altogether.
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Indeed, it does. And many of the more leftward-leaning elements of the Tory MPs have lost their seats (especially among likely leadership contestants), suggesting it risks going rightward. To be watched in coming weeks, with keen interest.
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Wasn’t that the pro-Palestinian vote?
I’m sad that she did not manage to beat the official Labour candidate - it was very close. Starmer won’t learn from it, though. Nor from Corbyn winning as an independent.
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As much as I love this picture and the glorious fact that he’s lost his seat, it doesn’t take away from the fact that this won’t affect his personal fortune.
Fucking robber barons and their inherited wealth.
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The DUP got trounced in Northern Ireland last night, dropping from 7 seats to 4. One of their losses was to the even more extreme TUV but overall it means that Unionism is now a minority voice in Northern Ireland politics.
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It’s definitely true that a number of races where tories lost out to reform; but trying to describe that as a moodless development seems like it leaves awkward questions.
If there’s no change in voter sentiment; why did Reform do so comparatively well when UKIP or BNP have traditionally done pretty marginally vs. Tory, despite consistently offering more robust fascism than the Tories do?
I’d agree that the numbers don’t necessarily read as a sea change in favor of Labor; but I’m finding it hard to account for the failure of the Tories to mostly keep the hard right as an internal element that occasionally needs appeasment; rather than actively losing votes(and a handful of non-defection seats) to it; without at least some change in public perception of Tories as being more or less acceptable governance that you need to push to do what you want; rather than being some combination of frankly atrocious at their jobs; and really quite effective at jobs you don’t want them doing.
The number of people still outright voting Tory, after 14 years of enthusiastic testing of the glorious vision of a society built on white collar crime and austerity, with a bit of xenophobia for culture, resulted in what can only be described as a profound failure on basically every measure; but it looks like at least the hard right that previously viewed working within the Tories as the most realistic option has lost confidence.
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I’m sure that same person was pointing out the previous incarnation of the UK fascist party is what handed a victory to the conservatives in the last election because that actually happened whereas the conservatives collapsed their own vote themselves. Tactical voting and seat management just delivered the fash very few seats versus their vote.
The other party who got very few seats versus their vote share was the Greens. I think they got as many seats as the Farage First party though.
And no ink will be spilt about them or about wooing their voters.
Because of course there won’t because that’s never what the media wants to talk about.
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From what I’ve read, Reform have done particularly well in constituencies which voted more Leave. Given that Leave was accomplished, except the bit of it about stopping immigration, it’s easy to draw an inference.
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There was no Reform candidate in Oxford East, but Independent Oxford Alliance is Reform in all but name.
They finished fifth, but still got 6.1% of the vote here.
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Carol Vorderman made some very astute comments too 
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Goddess
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She has become a national (anti-Tory) treasure! 
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I loved the follow-up comment from Krishnan Guru-Murthy when he asked her to tell us what she really thinks. 
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