The boy found holes they left open so he looked in. They should cover their holes better, perhaps ask him how they could do it better.
First off, he’s 28 years old. Hardly a “boy.” Second, you logic completely falls apart. This is no different than rummaging around inside someone’s house, and then saying that it was the homeowner’s fault because they didn’t lock the back door to the house.
Stop the victim blaming.
It just seems to me another case of double standards, go after one despot but not another!
The major countries need to sort out there definitions of what constitutes a crime against humanity, go after Gaddafi but not Mugabi for example?
If his condition could viewed as impairing his thought processes then I’d plea temporary insanity caused by fooking over a brilliant young man and destroying his life and the stress it caused him.
Not fretting one bit, interfering fooks!
I’m sorry but I can’t follow your reasoning. I don’t get how international military interventions are related to this case and adhering to human rights in the UK in general.
I’d say that’s an example of the diversity of the spectrum. Sensory processing issues could mean (as in my case) that fluorescent lights, vacuum cleaners etc. can be very annoying, or (as in your case) that they are incapacitating. The fact that he is on the spectrum doesn’t say anything about the severity of these issues, although if he has aspergers it would suggest that he’s closer to my end. In any case, it’s a broad enough spectrum that you couldn’t assume a lot just from the fact that he’s on it.
As someone who is familiar with the history of the autism diagnosis, has Kanner’s autism, and has met easily hundreds of people on the autism spectrum, this is not true at all.
Keep in mind that he’s British. In the UK, the Asperger’s diagnosis has been applied much differently and for much longer than it has in the US.
The 31-year-old is being sought on three indictments alleging that he “carried out a series of cyber attacks against the websites and computer systems” of the US government, military, and private sector. It is understood that of the three unidentified co-conspirators indicted in the filing to a New Jersey district court, the US has only sought the extradition of Love.
Two further indictments were made against Love in the Eastern District of Virginia, and the Southern District of New York. In England these allegations would be prosecuted before a single court on a single indictment, however in the US, the three indictments would require three separate court hearings.
So he’ll have to go through the trial ordeal three times as well which is cruel, he’ll probably try and top himself after the first judging by the state of him.
Double standards!!!One pertains to the other as an example of our crazy judicial system and the way in which our government picks it’s battles, no more examples in case you get confused.
Protect someone obviously guilty and evil but not some deluded, confused individual who may have reasoning difficulties possibly not properly diagnosed.
The ECHR pick their battles too and against some countries are pretty much toothless with regards to protecting human rights.
First of all he’s 31 which I acknowledged in my reply and apology for my first post. Beyond that the rest of your rebuke is simply your opinion. Thanks for sharing
I was thinking the same thing. The headline almost could be mistaken to be about McKinnon.
I think you’re confusing the ECHR with the International Criminal Court (ICC).
I have given up!
He is a vulnerable person with possible mental issues and has never been in trouble before, whereas the other has already been to jail has openly been filmed and recorded preaching hate messages to extremists and inciting terrorism.
So why the fook try and stop the former from being extradited and not the fooking latter?
Now!
The UK is supposed to refuse extradition to countries If there is evidence that torture will happen. The abusive US prison system would not be allowed to happen in the UK (which already has it’s own problems with abuse in prisons).
The fact you already consider him to be guilty, when the extradition is for him to stand trial is a big warning sign. Whatever happened to Innocent until proven guilty?
I’m getting my former and latter mixed up! Fuckit.
If you did the crime here then you should do the time here.
Hey, they’re only a student lawyer. Maybe they haven’t got to that part yet.
Straw man. Nobody is saying he should not be held accountable for his crimes. The extradition order is what is being debated.
I do not agree with all of that as blanket generalization, although I’d say it is not wholly inaccurate.
But IIRC the DSM V has done away with any diagnostic distinction between autism and Asperger’s. So I don’t know that USians are even being diagnosed with Asperger’s anymore.
Pick that username out ourselves, did we?
We’re still totally allowed to hate the affluinza kid, right?
On a more serious note. What does putting someone with a severely… Different way of going about the world and likely has social issues that would only be exasperated in prison ope to accomplish? He did a wrong thing. If it is proven he knew what he was doing is something that shouldn’t be done then yes he should face some sort of punishment. However as has been put forward elsethread, ask him how he got in, see why he sees the flaw the designers didn’t. Hell after making sure he won’t be a prolem for the whole of society, offer the guy a job with enough supervision to make sure he won’t casually abuse his position for the sake of a new puzzle box.
Okay… before we get too deep into this: We presently exist within a culture in which the more “screwed up” a person is (sorry about the technical language) the more “interesting” they are. As everyone around us has staked out their place along the (autism) spectrum we’ve hit a point in which the Rainbow Coalition would look monochromatic (welcome to the world of fauxtism). Using the precedent set in Crack v Mother’s Back (1894) though a person might have a disorder it does not necessarily mean they be cray-cray (and ignorance of the law is never a defense). .
Should a hacker/cracker/lipsmacker be sentenced to an excessively long prison term? Probably not as that first gang rape at the start of the sentence will probably convince them to never cross a line (including ten items or less; har) ever again. Assofaras as hiring the fox to guard the henhouse mileage may vary.
My major beef with this type of case is it’s over “secrecy/secured information” and democracies are supposed to be… ahem… transparent.
(sigh roll… you were one tortuous Wikipedia search away from figuring this one out champ) There’s actually a treaty in place (since 2007). The caveat is that a US citizen has to be an actual US citizen and not a national from another country residing in the US.
