These ass-talkers are “pro-baby” in the exact same way they are “pro-woman.” They don’t think of them as human, but can be useful for certain things, as long as they don’t get ideas in their heads. Actually, in exactly the same way Southern plantation owners in the early 1800’s were “pro-Black.”
THEY WANT TO OWN, TO RULE AND TO SUBJUGATE.
Nothing more, and certainly nothing less. Keep this in mind when arguing/“discussing” with them.