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There are even quotes in there from al-Qaeda members calling Daesh “deviant”. I hardly think they’re much interested in “talking roses to the west”.
I’ll give you a hand here, here’s one of them that has said it. I’ll leave the rest of the research to you, though.
I see what you did there, Herr Braun.
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I’ll take all I can get!
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Well said, but I am still not sure we technically won the cold war.
What were we fighting to not be invaded by? A militaristic regime that uses torture and arms third world nations, one with a massive national surveillance bureaucracy and corrupt elite?
Say what you want, in Soviet Russia you kept your shoes on at the airport.
And Lindsey Graham is a respectable man with whom I have profound philosophical disagreements.
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I agree. That’s like thinking it is wrong to steal because you might get caught. That kind of thinking is selfish asshole in a morality costume.
I agree with this 100%. Both parties have slid a single direction, one that doesn’t serve the people, but rather the money and the corporate interests that wield it.
I’d Pay-Per-View that shit!!! Popcorn, shots lined up, some sort of bingo boards.
I’ve laughed many times at rob ford debacles. The guy is a mess. BUT I can sure see his appeal for anyone sick to death of the war on drugs and the harm that has done. For all his faults, he is not for prohibition, and at least you know his faults because they are all hanging out all over the place. It is the repressed war happy, corporate serving, uptight, puppet politicians that scare the crap out of me, the ones that are no laughing matter.
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I thought the Republican position was that you had to carry the rapist baby to term and name it Junior?
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It would be lovely if, instead of constantly derailing discussions with random linguistic-philosophical musings, you would start a new BBS topic and just link to it from the original. I would happily debate with you there.
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When I introduce a new tangent, I try to do so. But usually I am only commenting upon somebody else’s tangent. As was the case here, where I happened upon people discussing the name “Lindsey” itself. I am not sure if replying to their discussion here or elsewhere would be more or less awkward.
Believe it or not, often I only intend to make one post to comment on something. Only a paragraph or two! I neither intend for nor want for every question or comment I make to sprawl out into many pages of discussion - it just happens.
Mr. Graham forgot to drink the Party Kool-Aid that day.
I feel like you are hoping that if only the right person expressed themselves in the right way then leaders of a butral, ideologically driven terrorist group would change their minds. Go find a conspiracy theorist and start arguing science with them to prove how that video doesn’t show that the world trade center was fitted with explosives. Bring all the evidence and expert opinion you can find.
You can’t talk things out with people who assume that everyone who disagrees with them is part of the conspiracy against them, or with people who assume that everyone who disagrees with them is working for Satan. If every single person in the world who was not part of ISIS was Muslim, and every single one of those people said that ISIS’s version of Islam was essentially anti-Islamic, then ISIS would take that as conclusive proof that they needed to fight all of these fake Muslims to implement real Islam, which only they understand.
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Yes, you are right.
I based most of my argument on what Malcolm Nance said in his interview on war college, and in particular on the point allegedly made by an al quaeda cleric (see also in the comments of the link posted).
However, I could not find any other corroborating evidence besides what has been said in that podcast, therefore I cannot honestly held it as proof. If I find more info I will change my mind but at this point I’d better rethink my argument.
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You see, I read that and think, “There’s the problem!” You take the fact that you are apparently a reasonable person who listens to people who disagree with them and tries to think things through, accepting that they might be wrong, and you go and project that onto other people. As failings go, I have to say it’s a lovely one.
You see, I read that and think, “There’s the problem!” You take the fact that you are apparently a reasonable person who listens to people who disagree with them and tries to think things through, accepting that they might be wrong, and you go and project that onto other people
Yes, that’s very much a fair point. I tend to trust war college because they’ve been very well balanced in the past, but it’s true that this does not mean they can be error-proof. I’ll be more careful in the future.
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It also doesn’t help that there are all sorts of politics and nuance involved. Some of the people who have called ISIS out are really nasty people who are problematic to be seen as being in agreement with. Others who might do it might not be in a position to do so due to politics, culture, or other issues in their region. Religion and politics are awful messy things.
Graham’s heavily into big militaries and American intervention around the world, so having him as President would still be dangerous, but he’s not a wingnut (at least most of the time), and the other candidates are doing their best to make him look like the adult in the room.
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