It’s only an “actual real issue” if a meat eater has a reaction from a non-meat product in their burger, not if a v*gan has a reaction from meat contamination in a veggie burger?
Sounds like you believe there should be a hierarchy of access to human and civil rights. What other groups don’t make the cut?
If I ordered a salad, and they’d rubbed meat on it, it wouldn’t matter what my food ethos was, they’d be cross-contaminating.
It just needs a logo made from a brush pile
Fair enough, #1
The evidence presented above amply shows that the decision to eat vegan is frequently based on moral choices. There is nothing wrong with that. But once it crosses from a quantifiable measure, such as parts per million that trigger an allergic reaction (an actual public health risk) into the “zero tolerance because meat is murder” zone, it becomes belief. It is not unlike every other religion. And I’m not particularly interested in whatever flavor of religion it is - keep it out of the courtroom.
Instead of being offended by those of us who aren’t legally obligated to respect religious beliefs, establish a definition of ‘vegan’ privately, and use trademark law to enforce it legally. It’s how things are done today for standards of all sorts of industries such as UL, ISO, NEMA, halal, kosher/parve, USDA, etc., and it works quite well.
Is that so controversial?
This thread needs more Clara Peller.
There are of course some people who performatively complain about meals not based around meat, and make it an identity thing. But, among the much larger population who don’t subscribe to any dietary identity, vegetarian and vegan cuisine tends to work with a different palette, which largely omits whole categories of flavors and textures that folks have learned to crave.
Specifically, vegan dishes tend to feature much less salt, fat and carbs than you’d find in most of what I eat, and vegan restaurants very often avoid gluten and refined sugar as well. It’s absolutely possible to make vegan “junk food”, but no one’s trying to do so. If I could get KFC-coated tempura vegetables, I’d be eating that three times a week.
“It’s only an “actual real issue” if a meat eater has a reaction from a non-meat product in their burger, not if a v*gan has a reaction from meat contamination in a veggie burger?”
That’s not what I said though; I was responding to the other commenter who said that they had indeed had an allergic reaction from eating a meat burger contaminated with soy from a veggie burger. I was acknowledging that it is an actual, not just a theoretical issue.
Of course it’s an issue if a vegan or vegetarian has a reaction from meat contamination in their veggie burger! Someone upthread mentioned the alpha gal allergy that people can pick up from ticks, so it’s a risk too.
My point was that the contaminants can go both ways, but nobody had considered the plant based contamination of the meat.
And for the record, I am vegetarian.
What the heck are you talking about? You could have said the exact opposite on all of those points and been equally accurate.
Right? I for one have seen a lot of vegan junk food!
This is a bit extreme, no? BK flame broils on a moving grill made of thin wire. There’s not going to be much beef fat sitting on those wires. Maybe none if they reserve space on the grill for both meat & non-meat patties.
But BK should disclose this, as everyone deserves to know what they put in their body.
Now I’m hungry for a deep-fat-fried burger.
[Off-topic of the vegan/meat contamination issue, but in response to another commenter here…]
Not just the mung beans, but peas are legumes, too.
It looks like Beyond may have updated their website to make people more aware of that, in the time since you went there:
BEYOND BURGER™
INGREDIENTS
Water, Pea Protein Isolate*, Expeller-Pressed Canola Oil, Refined Coconut Oil, Rice Protein, Natural Flavors, Cocoa Butter, Mung Bean Protein, Methylcellulose, Potato Starch, Apple Extract, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Vinegar, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Sunflower Lecithin, Pomegranate Fruit Powder, Beet Juice Extract (for color)*Peas are legumes. People with severe allergies to legumes like peanuts should be cautious when introducing pea protein into their diet because of the possibility of a pea allergy. Our products do not contain peanuts or tree nuts.
He/she gains the super power of being able to do everything red meat can? If so please remind him (or her) that with great power comes great responsibility.
(NOTE: while I’m being flippant with respect to super powers/allergens, the he/she was serious, you said “spouse” so I don’t want to assume a pronoun)
No, you clearly are being flippant.
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