WATCH LIVE: Trump rioters break through barrier and are attempting to break into the Capitol

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This is the best speech I’ve ever heard Pelosi deliver, not a high bar of course

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Rand Paul is the broken alarm clock tonight.

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Ugh. And the comments are so fucking predictable. They’re already denying that the mob was made up of Trump supporters. The mob is Antifa.:roll_eyes:

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So it was all a giant Antifa false-flag operation?

There are no depths to the stupidity, I swear.

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Then my comment would apply to “that guy”. Apologies.

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Hawley is such a weasel. Keep an eye on that one, a Future Fascist of America.

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He’s only loyal to himself and cares only for his own power. Trump has just thoroughly fucked up the Georgia run-off and incited an attack on Congress while McConnell was there and one the targets of the terrorists. I expect McConnell to calmly, but forcefully fuck back.

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You artfully point out why I have not dismissed the turtle completely.

It’s not that I think he’s had his ‘Come to Jesus’ moment.

Rather, I think it’s that’s he’s a vindictive, petty fuck who just lost a shitload of power and influence, not to mention the bit about having his own safety endangered.

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I can see that, nice analysis. Chapeau. :slight_smile:

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Exactly.

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Today Was A Two-Pronged Attack On Democracy

By David Kurtz

January 6, 2021 8:55 p.m.

Longtime TPM Reader DC :

A few thoughts on what we witnessed today from an institutional perspective.

For almost 20 years, I’ve taught a course called Res Publica: A History of Representative Government . It tries to pin down, historically and philosophically, the kinds of questions we should think about when we call our system of government a “republic” or a ‘democracy” or, most properly, a democratic republic.

For a short time — a moment, but not a trivial moment — we lost an important part of our democratic republic today. We are distinguished from monarchies and autocracies by the fact that we observe lawful transitions of power guided by elections.

The Capitol has been cleared of the mob, but that lawful transition of power was disrupted today by the very incumbent officeholder who stands to be ousted by popular sovereignty and by lawful procedures.

What happened today was not merely the storming of our Capitol building, horrible enough as that is and something essentially unwitnessed since the British sacking of Washington in 1814.

What we saw were two things that are fundamentally incompatible with a republic:

First, a faction incited by our executive shut down the body that makes our laws. This is a grave attack on the separation of powers. It is in monarchies and Cromwellian autocracies, not democratic republics, that strongmen prorogue or stop the meetings of representative legislatures.

Second, that faction also halted the process of certifying the Electoral College vote. The mob may seem to have failed, and it many ways it did, but it succeeded in delaying that certification.

So what we saw today was a twofold assault: an attack on the legislative foundations of our democratic republic, and an attack on the popular sovereignty that legitimates our democratic republic. For a moment, again, it succeeded. These facts, which may seem purely procedural but are far more than that, cannot be forgotten as we record this day in history.

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Note that this is from the Clinton statement you quoted, not your words.
But I wish it weren’t so wishy washy. It’s pitting a very specific group of Americans against all the rest of us. It’s not like we’re all rabid maniacs. It’s a very specific subset. Can they just call that out?

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Why yes, yes they could.

https://twitter.com/PapaGlider/status/1346990989022351361

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There are so many who are so far gone as to be just unreachable. It’s both sad and terrifying.

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No, I’m sure the truck full of long guns, ammo, and bomb kits is completely unrelated to the armed insurrection at the US Capitol.

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I think you’re right. He was probably thinking of being a kind of primitive hero, but he ended up looking like comic relief.

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Rep. Ryan is (rightly) pissed.

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The day so incredibly dumb, it effectively killed that dumbass meme

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