This just in, house adjusts rules to benefit house. Film at 11.
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the circumstances of a casino are definitely clear, and the key condition in this situation is that they donât have to accept your bets if they donât want to.
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Instead they just shuffle up on you. Once they know youâre counting, youâre done.
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Iâm fairly sure that there are counterstrategies there as well.
the pit bossâ body language shows that even he isnât comfortable with what he is saying/doing. which explains why he seems to honestly be as respectful as possible.
âso, look guy, i know it aint fair, but itâs my job here, i canât let you win. sorryâ
i bet he has trouble sleeping at night.
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I think this is worse. If the shoe size is still finite, you can have wider swings in shoe value. Most shoes will bounce around the middle hot/cold but the outlier shoes can be very big. And if you know that the deck is +30 and thereâs 90 cards left, youâre going to bet huge and do well.
They do. Some casinos on the Vegas strip use 6 deck shoes. Other smaller Vegas casinos, looking for some business, advertise one or two deck shoesâŚ
I was lucky enough to sit in on a casual discussion with one of the MIT guys who were told they were no longer welcome in Atlantic City after repeatedly winning large pots. He was able to explain the technique they used well enough that the rest of us at the table could follow it, although I wouldnât try it myself without a lot more study.
I also remember a quote from Sliders: âI do quantum mechanics calculations for a living. A five-deck shoe is nothing.â
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A friend and I were kicked out of a Lake Tahoe casino for counting cards many years ago. Yes, they were reasonably polite, but still quite intimidating. I still remember the two gentlemen who barely fit into their gorilla-sized three-piece suits backing up the pit boss as he insisted on counting our chips before we left.
They noticed we varied the bet size and also that our insurance bets varied. It wasnât as if we were raking in huge winnings but we were indeed winning. It wasnât our fault that we found a single-deck dealer who routinely dealt down to six or seven cards left!
Quite a bit of math involved in properly counting cards and if you donât have a huge bankroll, relative to your unit bet size, even a perfect player has a real âelement of ruinâ chance.
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Thereâs absolutely /nothing/ fair about Casinos. Never has been. Las Vegas has always been a mob racket, and always will be. The mob today may no longer be organized crime per se (though thatâs up for debateâŚ), but itâs just as much of a racket now as it was then.
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Boing Boing needs more copy editors.
Interesting video, but dude worked really hard to try to get the boss to say âWe only want suckers to playâ or something equivalent, and failed. Casinos are businesses, itâs not about âplaying fairâ, itâs about making money. I donât see where the problem is, here.
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Sure. I understand and completely agree with you, but it just angers up my blood that something like this is allowed to exist. Itâs false advertising: âHEY come on down, EVERYONEâS a winner at (fill-in-the-blank) Casino!â Except if you win too much, whether through card counting or dumb luck, they kick you out.
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I donât know what she knows, but my sister told me to never place an insurance bet. All I know is that I could knock back 1 or 2 drinks, sit next to her at a table and come out ahead (i.e. enough to cover my bar tab for the week). When she left me alone I still did all right. Maybe we were just lucky. At least once I had a dealer gesture to me to not hit again; he was right and I won. I tip pretty generously though (again, gambling after 1 or 2 drinks).
EDIT: this was on a cruise ship, not at a casino in the US, FWIW.
It exists because gambling addiction is a mental illness and people want it to exist.
Theyâre different. They know the odds. But they have a strategy, you seeâŚ
(Also, the elderly like to vote, and they like casinos, I imagine)
Not only do they run six decks, they reshuffle about ž of the way through. Youâre extremely unlikely to come across a hot shoe in those conditions. Single-deck tables of course reshuffle for every hand, but they tend to have lower bet limits, limiting the houseâs exposure.
I had an acquaintance back in the early 00âs who was a card counter in the late 80âs and early 90âs, and he said that those kinds of changes made it incredibly difficult for him to make any consistent money.
A good allegedly nonfiction story about running a card-counting ring: http://www.localrogertoo.com/casino-odyssey/
Man, that is LONG. Iâll have to mark it to read later.
