What makes a movie a Western?

This is why DS9 wasn’t a Western. Not enough hats.

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Good calls.

I was pleasantly surprised to see Days of Heaven on the list. Glad to see the underrated Ballad of Cable Hogue. Surprised The Misfits and Bring Me The Head of Alfredo Garcia aren’t on the list.

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What are you on about?

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Silly me, using the archaic definition of “hat”.

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Are “wagon train” TV shows set in space, westerns?

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just watched that a few weeks ago. It did an amazing job being an almost scene for scene remake yet an entirely new take on the story.

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I may be late to the party and owe someone a coke, but Prospect is also a great space western.

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21st century western. Recommended.

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Your father would love reading Italian comics such as Tex, Mágico Vento and my favorite: Ken Parker.

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James Stewart is in it?

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When do you reach Randolph Scott?

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How far west is “west”? Like, say, if there’s an ocean in the way?

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You’re not the first to mention Australian Westerns in this thread.

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Wasnt part of Oklahoma also part of mexico with Texas once though?

Like that panhandle I think iirc?

During the wars for independence from Mexico? That would definitely place it at a frontier at that time.

Maybe Oklahoma is complicated and the country doesn’t fall so easily into regions since it’s not that old… Or maybe my middle school tx history is failing me.

And then OK and Texas sided with the slavers (or continued to) and thus became part of the south during the civil war?

But that would leave a good generation of space for setting the mood in a romanticized plot about “Indians” and Mexicans and guns and hats and shit like guerilla warfare and genocide in a dusty place. Like Blood Meridian.

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What Are You Talking About Harrison Ford GIF by Star Wars

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The proposition was a properly depressing film.

Oklahoma didn’t exist in its current form during the Civil War. It was Indian Territory. So technically I guess it may have officially still been part of the Union, but Texas forces occupied it during the Civil War and signed treaties with most of the tribes there, most of whom had understandable beef with the United States. Many tribes also owned enslaved people of African descent, though, so…yeah, it’s all very messy and unpleasant.

None of which changes the fact that Oklahoma absolutely qualifies as a legitimate setting for Westerns. Again, I lived there for 9 years. No one who is from Oklahoma identifies as a Midwesterner. Now, in the northeastern corner of the state, like around Miami (pronounced Mi-amuh), the culture is a bit more Midwest than south or southwest, but that’s because it’s basically Missouri (pronounced Missour-uh in that part of the world). Speaking of Missouri, films involving the James Gang and the Younger Gang are considered Westerns, and that’s all Missouri. The Outlaw Josey Wales is undeniably a Western, and it involves stuff that happened in Missouri and Kansas. Missouri is part of the Midwest. Hell, a story set in Minnesota in the 1800s is probably going to be a Western. None of this shit has hard and fast rules.

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I guess because if you call a food a “state food”, it must mean it was invented there. :roll_eyes:

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Audie Murphy is in it?

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So close. Nearly there…

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