Yeah. That was a rhetorical q, I suppose.
Plus, there’s all that “Whites are teh REAL victims these days!” crap (versus, as you said, reality).
Ugh… I know… I’m so sick of this shit.
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I suppose it’s just that I was taught that to judge based on race is racism. It can have a negative outcome (almost always), or it can result in empowering those without any - such as in this case, but a race based decision is a race based decision. (I know, It seems it’s just so much semantics and I should prolly shut up.)
Do I have a better solution? Nope. I agree in helping whomever needs help and it makes me sad that we still talk about it in terms of race. So long as that’s how we’re thinking about the problem, I feel it’ll continue to be a problem.
Canada has no racism - unless you’re First Nation, Sikh, Chinese or a visible/hidden minority. ;|
Yeah, the word “racism” might have differing connotations in the US, where’s AFAIK, it’s an entirely negative term. Maybe what we would say here in the terms you’re speaking of is “racialism,” or we’d just say something like “in terms of race.”
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It’s complicated. Racism has dual meanings: 1) prejudice based on race, and 2) the systemic oppression and marginalization that racial prejudice has engendered in the dominant culture, regardless of whether any particular member of that culture personally subscribes to that prejudice. When you hear someone claim something like “African-Americans can’t be racist” they’re referring to the latter definition; obviously they’re capable of the former.
We should probably get different words for the different meanings.
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Sounds expensive.
Your high school graduated you with a 0.5GPA?!
It seems a safe guess that he got the GED because he didn’t graduate. Why would you need one if you already had a high school diploma?
Also, doesn’t sound expensive to me. Community colleges tend to be cheaper.
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Insufficient GPA from said diploma? But you’re right, that makes more sense.
True, but don’t most community colleges only offer two-year programs? My understanding was people went to CC for a year or two and then transferred. But the way college tuition is going, three years at CC and two at a four-year uni might still be cheaper than two and two.
Well, no idea how many classes he took during those three years. I was at my CC for five or six years, but I was just casually taking a class here and there for a lot of that time.
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That’s assuming you’re attending full time, decide your major ahead of time, don’t require any remedial/GED/ESL classes and don’t have any problem getting into the classes you need.
I teach community college and many of my students have been around for more than two years.
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I was definitely making the mistake of unconsciously assuming my experience was somehow the gold standard. Obviously there are a lot of different paths to a degree.
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You’re intentionally conflating two separate definitions here, all the more obvious when you call giving someone a scholarship “judging” them in the same way one would abuse someone else for their skin.
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It is illegal under the Civil Rights Act for a company over 15 employees to discriminate when hiring based on race, creed, color or national origin. There is no exemption for white women.
Courts have said however, that the Civil Rights Act does allow companies to voluntarily adopt an affirmative action program designed to correct historical discrimination in hiring. Those programs have to be narrowly tailored in time and scope so that it only remedies past discrimination.
The Getty Foundation seems to have been created with this internship with this limitation in mind:
Be of a group underrepresented in museums and visual arts organizations, including, but not limited to, individuals of African American, Asian, Latino/Hispanic, Native American, or Pacific Islander descent
Of course, if there is no historical discrimination of say, Asians, in museums or visual arts organizations or they are well represented now, then it is totally illegal to bias your hiring towards them.
Plus, even if you have an affirmative action program, I’m pretty sure you’re not allowed to put a racial preference on your job application requirements.
That standard is why companies don’t usually implement affirmative action programs unless ordered by the court to do so. It requires effectively measuring the protected class’ participation in a particular business or trade and demonstrating a history of discrimination that needs to be correcting.
It is actually illegal to discriminate or retaliate against someone who participated in an employment discrimination investigation or lawsuit - for obvious reasons.
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Community college was free, thanks to being dirt poor, from a dirt poor family. Grants are awesome.
I didn’t graduate, I was expelled/dropped out my junior year. Hence the GED. High School didn’t sit well with me, for various reasons. College, on the other hand, worked out well. I think its the fact that I could pick my own interests, and I grew tired of being a rebel, since I actually had my own choices at stake, and not the will of the state.
Stop dropping acid, and major in philosophy.
This. I had no clue what I wanted to do, so I stuck around switching interests for awhile. I tried many majors before moving on to university, without ever picking up an AA. The credits transferred, and it was dirt cheap. Our CC system is awesome.
Actually, some of the best teachers I’ve ever had were at community colleges, and not university. Both in the sense of qualified, and in the the formative sense.
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some of the best teachers I’ve ever had were at community colleges, and not university. Both in the sense of qualified, and in the the formative sense.
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When you get a good prof at a community college, it’s really a boon. It seems like it can be a really rewarding position, if someone isn’t really concerned with status and prestige of teaching at a big university.
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Not intentionally, but but I hear you. I would still disagree and say that both of your examples are still judging. The outcome (scholarship vs. abuse) is not what determines if something is or is not racist, but like you say; two separate definition. I’ll think about that and what you’ve said. Thanks for your opinion.
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Well it has been awhile since I was in proper college but I think my 2.6 GPA was freaking awesome for the actual effort put into getting it. 
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That doesn’t mean that someone can’t find another reason not to hire them. (This is the perpetual problem with these sort of laws.)
Sure they can, but if this person sued once for discrimination, why wouldn’t she sue again for any job she didn’t get? Those kinds of lawsuits are expensive.
