"Who has seen a heavily pregnant woman since 2021?" — Naomi Wolf suggests that no one is giving birth

Wolf became addicted to the fame and attention associated with being a public intellectual. When the basis for that collapsed amongst serious people, she turned to the only crowd who’d still treat her that way: right-wing conspiracists who were happy to tell her that her downfall was the result of “woke ivory tower librul elitists”.

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Yea, I mean - either you’re pregnant or not, that’s what’s so weird about the statement.
In our circle of friends, we are all pretty old - the youngest had their last kid a decade ago - but I’m FAIRLY certain I’ve seen pregnant ladies in public since 2021… :slight_smile:

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Did she ever stop to think maybe she’s just not hanging out at places women in their 8th+ month of pregnancy frequent? Or just not noticing people? Or seeing the exact same number but now is paying more attention and it seems low?

I would HOPE that with more people working from home, at least part time, means more women are working from home during their last trimester. Hopefully.

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My daughter had a baby last November, so yeah, pretty recently.

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… after “Outrages” was publicly debunked before the book tour was over she decided she needed a new audience that wouldn’t fact-check her :confused:

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If you’re dealing with infertility I promise you will see pregnant women everywhere.

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Congrats.
And if my math is right, she would have been pregnant after 2021. :slight_smile:

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Leaving aside the various layers of selection bias in her nuttery, I was just thinking, that even if it were true, there are reasons why pregnant people might not be so obvious right now. For one, I know a lot of people’s pregnancy plans got shifted by the covid pandemic, delaying it until it was actually possible to get health care. So I suspect there was pause and then larger number than usual of pregnancies just after the covid peak (lockdown boredom contributing to a baby boom). That also shifted when people had children after that, too. So there’s going to be unusual peaks/troughs in birth stats for a few years. Plus, of course, we now live in a post-covid environment, which means more work-from-home and food/good deliveries, and more reasons for those with precarious health to avoid being in public as well.

To jump from, “I’ve not noticed any pregnant women lately” to “they must not exist” is pretty fuckin’ wild, though.

But you can’t necessarily tell at a glance when people are in the early stages of pregnancies, and her whole claim is based on what she, personally, has noticed.

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True enough, but there ARE legitimate stages of pregnancy; early, mid and late, divided up into trimesters.

Not trying to womansplain human gestation to you, yet it must be said:

There’s a massive difference inside a woman’s body between growing a clump of cells no bigger than thumbnail and carrying around a 5 pound+ child that can breathe it’s own air unassisted, no matter what those hateful asshats on the Alambama SC say…

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Especially if that 5lb-er is apparently already trying out for the soccer team…

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Word!

:clap:t4:

In my last trimester, my daughter kicked so much that I wasn’t sure when I finally started having contractions.

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Some kids apparently like to use the bladder as target practice…

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Mine apparently kicked each other… and they never really stopped.

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No doubt. He isn’t a guns n Jesus guy as far as I know, just an antivax hippy type. I never really liked him, but the pandemic simply broke his brain. I see a lot of that around here - people who have always had a healthy skepticism of authority (with good reason) somehow making that next leap into conspiracism (without any good reason).

It would help if the ‘authorities’ in these cases weren’t actually horribly corrupted half the time (looking at you FCC, CDC etc). It’s hard to know when the information is accurate and based on the best current science, and when it is the product of intensive lobbying and insider appointments. Sometimes it’s both…

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Mine favored my kidneys, IIRC…

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I really don’t know the economics of being a public intellectual or grifting, nor do I really know where to drawn the line as between them, but I think you’ve got this exactly right. You need the praise and attention, but you also need to keep making a living and what else do you do at 61 when punditry is all you are (apparently) qualified to do?

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May I suggest she call a Midwife.

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Exactly. But the systems for vetting books are breaking down. Most presses, especially academic ones are having to do more with less (as I know you know)…

Yep. Anyone writing knows (especially academic works) that the more eyes the better…

I got a copy, but have not read it yet… too many books, not enough time!

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Mine thought my rib cage was holding his feet down. Nah, his feet wedged inside my rib cage kept him head down. For the last 3 months. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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