I do heartily agree that All lives matter has a dismissive usage that makes it a phrase worth avoiding in the current discussion of Police on Black Crime.
I do wish that there could be some more discussion around the general modernization of police training and tactics. Police are training to shoot threats dead. Racism means they see African Americans as an inherent threat, but others can get on their hit list too. Even if cops treated everyone equally there would be more to be done so that we arenât policing through violence and intimidation.
Hereâs the thing⌠you went out, and saw what this was all about, and were able to re-calibrate your views⌠That says a hell of a lot about you, I thinkâŚ
I know Iâve linked to Slacktivistâs Good Jackie, Bad Jackie post a number of times over the years. Itâs OK to be wrong (no one is always right): itâs how you handle it when youâre wrong that shows your character.
I donât ignore or disregard any of them, but none of those answers explained anything. They gave either rhetoric, illogic, or irrationality. The âreasonâ as to why itâs not okay to believe, and in turn express, that all lives matter, is still unanswered here. If I am to condense what I am told, it is only that âyou shouldnât say it because somebody doesnât like it if you do.â But thatâs not a reason why itâs bad, itâs a (poor) reason not to say it. It doesnât explain the values and criteria behind the determination that it is wrong to say (and presumably, to likewise believe). Why is it not be okay to express a belief in equality stated in simple and unambiguous terms? âBecause reasonsâ or âbecause somebodyâs baseless opinionâ is not an explanation, itâs just excuses.
Black lives being terminated by LEO at almost double the rate of white lives by ratio is a P1 bug.
Therefore:
Similar to âall P1 bugs matterâ contrasted with âall bugs matterâ is analogous to âblack lives matterâ contrasted with âall lives matterâ.
And yet thatâs exactly what youâre doing. Excuses, baseless opinionâŚanything but admit that you donât believe all lives matter equally. (Hint: saying you do means nothing.)
That statement only carries if you deliberately ignore all context related to the discussion.
Hereâs what youâre doing;
Wearing blackface in a play. Your excuse/reason? âBut my character was black in the book, I just want to be accurate!?â When told why that isnât done anymore you respond that you had nothing to do with any of that.
Smiling at Auschwitz in a selfie. Then you do one with duckface. People comment that itâs inappropriate. You respond âHey I felt happy, I didnât have anything to do with what happened there!! Stop censoring me!â
etc etc ad nauseam
In this instance, you claim that all of the discussion, all of the context, all of the history amounts to
And thatâs completely, stupid, banal, wilfully blind-ignorance to such an extent you are probably a trolley. Admittedly, you could be simply stupid, you donât make paragraphs and thatâs a concrete sign that itâs possible. I give you more credit, I think youâre a simple trolley.
You shouldnât say it in any context of #blacklivesmatter because it undermines the cause that it was copied from by dilution, it obscures what others are trying to say, it was created very likely for that purpose and has certainly been used that way if it was just some idiot that doesnât know whatâs going on.
By the way, you did ignore and disregard all of the context to draw your conclusion.
ignore - refuse to take notice of or acknowledge; disregard intentionally, fail to consider (something significant).
But they did, I see them clearly, you could say that you disagree, that you think differently, that you remain unconvinced. But you donât, you give no reason for why you think as you do. You must not be serious. You canât ignore that All lives matter isnât challenged by Black lives matter since Black lives matter is the actual movement in action, you canât then ignore that All lives matter, at best, is an attempt to modify the scope of Black lives matter (I believe a misguided attempt (at best)), and at worst, and in practice, a derail.
All lives matter is the thing that needs to be legitimized to the people who are actually out on the street attempting to make a difference for themselves and their families.
See, thatâs where you make no sense at all. If you want to say that All lives matter is a valid logical statement then yeah, great. BIG FUCKING DEAL. If you mean to say that what others should care for and what labels they should use should pass some unknowable approval board run by people who so much miss the point of the movement that they challenge their rallying cries, then Iâm afraid you might not give a pass to many successful slogans of the past:
Caller-âSay it loud!â
Group Response- âIâm Black And Iâm Proudâ
or
âBlacks Protests NâJusticeâ
(Get it? iNâjustice?)
Oh and this one will make your logical head spin:
ânon-violence or non-existenceâ
And you STILL havenât justified why âlives matterâ is an effective slogan at all under your rules (Black or otherwise), that you would attempt to co opt an existing movement and attempt to change its concerns.
When you get tired, Hereâs a buzzfeed listicle of things with names you might find unfortunate you can contest.
Youâll find the same disadvantage there as well, the products are already established and incredibly enough accepted by those who would purchase them.
Of course, if you want to make a point, then go ahead, Iâm listening, It probably makes sense in your head, but not in your post, do try to voice your concerns if you care to be taken seriously.
Sad that one has to deal with so much bloviation before worthless racists reveal their nature. At least you know youâre not getting anywhere by the proud ones. The ones who pretend to not be just waste everyoneâs time.