It would be real nice if people would actually listen… a radical notion, I know! It just seems like it would solve some of the complaints here.
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Reading is harrrrrrd and typing is FUN!
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Reading ladies is even harder, apparently.
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I can’t even see anything, did someone respond?
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I think that unilaterally declaring ones posts to be off limits to response forever, no mater what they say, in a forum is rude and presumptuious. If you want to say things that are off limits to response from the public, then use a PM.
However, I also think that people should not have to put up with stalkers and should be safe in places like BBS.
How to reasonably deal with this tension of interests is really what is at issue. There isn’t a perfect answer because the interests overlap and conflict.
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I see a Flag was “hey moderator, look at this now!” so I don’t do it where I don’t want to possibly invoke the breath of @falcor.
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I’ve gotten this before (not with you though!).
Mods have said that reposting deleted comments will get you banned…
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I know. I wasn’t suggesting that they post it, just that they can go back and look at the deleted posts and maybe see what the offending posts were. They are working solely off memory and a refresher might help them understand what happened.
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I only recently learned to pull down my comment history and sort through the resulting CSV file. While I can then see what it was I said and then go back and try and figure out the context, that doesnt mean I can figure out what exactly caused offense or even why it caused offense.
I may not be the smartest participant here and I’m certainly not the most beloved but I do credit myself with having at least some sense of what to say to whom and when based on a few years of participation in this particular place.
Though it is quite nice to be able to pull one’s comment history, especially when something that was in fact useful got deleted, it does not mean it is actually addressing the problem of “why did my comment get deleted?”.
Were it only I who suffered this confusion I might say it was due to my personal insensitivity that something was somehow offending someone but it seems others besides myself also share my concern here so maybe it is a valid one.
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99% of the time it will be fallout. Originating trolley post gets eaten and all the replies as well even if they are well reasoned and thoughtful.
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Which makes sense, because if you delete a troll post, and there are all these responses to it, how will it make any sense with the original context troll post gone?
And quoting the original post in your post is a “solution” I guess but worse, since quoting a troll post means you’ve left troll spoor around for others to step in…
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Yeah the first time that happened to me I was all wait what is going on but then realized the originating post got eaten and my reply would honestly had made no sense just sitting there on it’s own so I just shrugged and got on with things.
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I can see that. And of course, you might not always agree that it was offensive, either. People might have conflicting ideas about what constitutes something problematic. Quite frankly, there are various ways to interpret the policy here. Sometimes it’s flat out obvious (a racial/misogynistic/antisemitic slur for example, which I’d hope we could all agree should be flagged and called out) but not all things can be so easily categorized. What I might find offensive might not even register with you. The devil is really worked out in the details of how the mods implement the policies.
And this is part of the reason I hesitate on flagging. If I find something offensive, from someone who is around a good bit or a regular, I hesitate to flag. Maybe I should, but maybe I’m reading the person the wrong way?
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You’re free to think that, but if you behave that way here, you may well find yourself crying into your beer again over this.
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No problem, because that means by your own standards that the following is neither rude nor presumptuous: Never respond to me on the BBS again, no matter what I say.
in the thread from which they came, yes, it will.
If you assume that means that someone couldn’t ask the community for help understanding what was possibly out of whack with one… well, that’s a lot to add and then hold someone else responsible for.
It really is just the 'don’t repost a deleted thing in the space from which it was deleted" and mostly because that’s a power play, not because those words in that order have been deemed unfit for consumption. The context of the thread and the moment very much matter.
and if I seem to say this with authority, it’s because i know the mods here are not quite that capricious as to shut down a conversation asking for help making the mods life easier on the basis you cited.
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you really might stop telling other people what their standards are, and what they meant. It’s awfully aggressive of you, you poor victimed thing. You really can’t imagine why your precious words get moderated sometimes? Really?
Moderation happens to me once in a while, but I’ve had no tantrums, called no names, and misrepresented nobodies beliefs over it.
YMMV
I told you not to respond to me ever in the BBS, no matter what I say. Yet you ignored it. So, by your own actions you do not accept such unilateral declarations. Why is it ok for you to ignore such statements, but the rest of us are supposed to respect them?
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