Yes, sorry. You’re not gross. I have a bad association with that term.
I’d say that politics is generally about justice, and ethics is generally about doing good.
There’s overlap, though politics is concerned primarily with solidarity, groups and institutions and limiting state power, i.e., the social contract.
That’s partly so that different ethical practices may thrive. Generally, the state should be restrained from taking substantive ethical positions.
Killer Mike needs to get out the cans of woop ass in the South right about now is all I’m saying or this peace and love bus is going over a cliff on March 1st!
So, why didn’t you vote in your own self interest?
Shut up! Stop telling me what to do!
While the pundits on NPR declared it a “decisive” Clinton victory, I can’t help but note it’s basically the same margin Clinton had over Obama in Nevada in 2008.
Politics are about power. Justice is one of the ends that power may be turned to, but it very much isn’t the focus of the political contest.
And, to put on my even-more-cynical hat for a moment: ethical theory is frequently what we use to justify doing whatever it is that we wanted to do anyway.
One of the key lessons from studying philosophy is that a sufficiently skilled writer can twist just about any ethical theory into any outcome they choose.
In what nation or culture?
Exactly.
That’s part of where the sophistry comes in.
I think we’d need to ask them. 
I’m asking you since you’re the one that thinks politics is about justice. Justice is a window dressing, just like ethics, put on politics.
The interesting thing about the Nevada results is how close this means the national race will be.
538 predicted that a tie on the national level would have Clinton winning Nevada by 3 points. So a win by 5 points shows that Bernie is well within touching distance, and if he takes more than 5 of the 11 states up for grabs on Super Tuesday, he’ll be winning.
A loss in Nevada would have been fatal for Clinton. A narrow win is being spun as a triumph, but that’s bullshit.
Berniementum continues.
So, should we then vote for unethical individuals, so that the system stays in harmony?
The difference is that this time around she has the DNC and the corporatist media in the bag, while the other guy is an outsider, hates the media, hates wall street and wants to change everything. So, she could have won by 3/10ths of a point like she did in Iowa, but plastered across the airwaves:
#ULTIMATE VICTORY HILLARY WINS NEVADA BY A LANDSLIDE
Which is how the establishment rolls these days. Any small victory is exaggerated. Any loss is ignored as irrelevant. The outsider is actively disadvantaged at every possible turn, …because this game is rigged.
Hey, I know you want Bernie to win, just like I do. But I recognize a rigged game when I see one. Get ready for President Trump, America! If you think the violence, sexism, racism and xenophobia are bad now, just wait a year.
Probably he will get 1 or 2 on March 1st. They are southern states that Clinton has had wrapped up for a long time, due to a long history of campaigning there and assisting other Democrats in those places. Bernie is an outsider, as an Independent, so he has not developed a relationship with the party establishment. He is trying to win by appealing directly to voters, to bypass the establishment. Bernie’s “margin of loss” will narrow unexpectedly in each case, due to inability to poll them accurately for reasons already discussed.
What is needed now is something useful like that America ad, but even moreso, such as one highlighting his longstanding social activism. Or something. Get arrested at a Black Lives Matter event or something. I don’t know what; I’m not a campaigner. But as for numbers, the trend is still in Hillary’s favor, and the unexpected part will be in how Bernie narrows the gap each time: but unfortunately it is not looking like he will eclipse her. And all it would take is a half a point in a few key states to turn the tide, but I am not seeing that happening yet.
I recognize there are some people who might yet change their SuperMinds.
The glass is “the 1%”. Just sayin.
He has been there. He has not developed a close relationship with them, no. He’s been the Chairman of a few senate committees though, and all those years in the House. He’s not an outsider to the whole system. He’s just not that into the old DLC. Neither am I. Not at all.
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Eating alone in the cafeteria meant something in High School. As an adult man, be assured it is a choice.
