With Windows 10, Microsoft doubles down on forced updates and reboots (save your work!)

Enjoy being part of your botnet.

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microsoft, apple and google do not give a shit about innovation and only want to compete with each other for dominance. the results are that we are going to continually have less choice, less control, less everything… these three companies (along with many, many others) are just giant scumbag operations hellbent on profits.

i know i shouldn’t be so wrapped up emotionally in this kinda stuff but… these days i actually hope that everyone (every single person) who works for microsoft, google, and apple… all of them go the rest of their lives with all of their hopes and dreams unfulfilled.

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Compile your own kernel? I don’t know how to make popcorn, and I use Linux every day. Ubuntu Studio, which is Ubuntu with XFCE (interface sort of like old-school Windows) and a ton of software. Works for me. No unwanted shutdowns, no “green ribbon of death.” If you need Adobe software, forget it. But if you don’t, give it a try.
The weird names for things take some getting used to. You can set up the menu to explain what things are.

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you get it, most of the people commenting here don’t. and not one person has even bothered to wonder what the hell it was that was so important that microsoft had to update them immediately, which turns out to be fixes to their bullshit additions (microsoft hello???!!!) which solely exist so microsoft can compete against google (and say to clients and investors “we have a share tool already installed on a billion systems!”) and not because anyone is demanding that these tools works properly.

microsoft - “we know better then you!”

what a scumbag operation they are running these days.

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I guarantee you (unless you are older than I suspect), I’ve been running Linux a decade or more longer than you, when necessary. I don’t use it as my day-to-day desktop because the usability on its apps is a joke.

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You mean this time. Next time, it could be a zero day in the wild. Only idiots turn off automatic updates on a computer connected to the Internet.

When it comes to security updates, for 99.999% of humanity or more, they do.

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why is this even necessary in this day and age? we have swap files, why isn’t it part of windows program certification that programs should be able to completely restore their state from memory swapped to disk?

related from the operating system level, i’m still a little unclear why reboot is needed - or at least the install during reboot. why can’t an os patch the necessary files while running, so at least - if you do need to reboot - it’s only the time of the restart? ( for instance, the way the chrome browser patches itself. )

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Because then people would bitch about Microsoft forcing software developers to make people “save” for their own good.

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This is the situation we got put into due to so many people disabling updates and ignoring them. Myself I had to deal with many computers that were covered in viruses that had expired antivirus and updates turned off.

It is a BITCH getting people to stay current and I don’t envy the position Microsoft is in.

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The way the file system works they can’t replace files that are in use and locked.

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I want my Windows updates, I really do–It’s just that I want them to wait until my Android Studio update finishes first, and those can take hours.

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I can’t wait till this kind of thing is done to a car, shutting it down as it’s going around a curve at 70 mph.

What pricks.

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right. but they created the operating system. they could design things to allow temporarily aliases, to construct a new filesystem index that simply gets toggled at boot, or any number of more insightful options.

macos does this too: a ten minute reboot blockade of my machine. they’d rather spend time working on another, yet still more obtuse itunes interface instead: that’s their choice, but it is a choice they are making.

i probably wasn’t clear. memory can wind up swapped to disk at some point during normal use. no special application programming, it’s all at the os layer. if the os forced a memory swap of the program before reboot, all of your work would be there. the onus of reading that program state and getting back to where the user was, yes, would be an application requirement. they would rather force application developers to handle “tile ui” and (ugh) cortana support, but that too is a choice microsoft is making.

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not a registry maestro, have you tried winearo tweaker? i love it.

you can set the ethernet connection to metered.

seriously, though, i am not shilling for WT, came across it two years ago, and it works great. doesn’t work for every version of windows 10, but at least it tells you what it can or can’t do.

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For those who aren’t using a Professional or Enterprise version which lets you choose to schedule updates or just get notifications to do it yourself - can’t you simply firewall the updater’s connection to Microsoft? If you let your computers connect to the network whenever they like, then you already have security/administrative problems!

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You’re replying to a comment about saving files in programs, not about OS reboots. I didn’t comment on that.

That said, the reason you need to reboot is that Windows won’t allow the modification of certain OS level files while they’re in use, as has been stated. If it was trivial to do this, Microsoft would have changed it a long long time ago.

Unless you think you’re a better engineer than folks at Apple and Microsoft, clearly the reason they have to reboot the system for OS level updates is because they have no choice and it isn’t trivial to fix.

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It’s improved quite a bit since I started using it many years ago.

Some people don’t use much more than a browser, a word processor, and maybe a bit of spreadsheet. The Chrome OS doesn’t have any “apps” other than a browser, and it’s quite popular. I do a lot more than that, and I can’t say it’s ever let me down.

I also have W7 on the same machine, but I seldom boot into it–I find it irritating to use. Use whatever works for you.

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That’s good since it is no longer getting security updates.

No feature updates, but security updates until 2020.

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never said different. my point is that companies make choices about where to spend their development dollars.

microsoft has spent theirs on tile uis, cortana, bing, and other such things. they could choose to improve the fundamentals of their operating system - and they have made some improvements on some fronts - but by and large they are willing to offload the cost of their patch system onto their users, rather than work on fixing problems inherited from the earliest versions of their os.

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