The broad strokes are all from else where and a lot of it’s straight up plagiarism. I don’t think he was first on the space lizards, those were just one of the sorts of aliens in the early contactee scene. But he was real early on tying it all into global totally not Jewish i swear conspiracies.
The same can be said of a lot of these guys. The difference between these dudes and Alex Jones is Alex Jones popularizes this shit and validates it. He references these people but he seldom claims to have discovered such things himself. Or to have gotten a spiritual download from the ascended masters or whatever.
It goes from the David Ickes to Jones to Fox news. And because Icke’s stuff is more classic tin foil hat, bigfoot is real, he’s not the sort of guy who gets to write for Brietbart after Tucker Carlson starts talking about the deep state. Carlson’s deep state are secret Democrats, Icke’s are the cast of V.
True, but it’s fair to say that the US is currently enjoying an unusual political situation, which is not easily paralleled in the UK for a bunch of reasons that will be apparent to most (i.e. no GOP, parliamentary democracy, and, in general, a less extreme political spectrum, despite the recent antics of the ERG and the useful idiots they arouse).
Now, of course, Icke or No Icke, scallies will continue to go around setting fire to 5G towers because i) they like having an excuse to fuck shit up, and ii) it’s the Midlands. Or Hull, or whatever flyblown part of the country it is.
Weirdly not so much. Obama was not a space lizard though he did work for them. The Bushes on the other hand are not just space lizards but king space lizards. And the Bush family fills a similar role to the Rothschilds in similar conspiracies.
I don’t think Mitch McConnell is a space lizard though. Even though he looks the most like he’s wearing some one else’s skin.
His whole take is more all elites are beholden to space aliens than liberals are lizards. It’s very inconsistent. A lot of it seems to be about dodging criticism as well, like his big to do about Obama not being a reptiloid seemed to be more about smugly saying “see I don’t think all liberals are lizards”.
Though he can give you a detailed description of how they poop without taking off the skin suits.
Not to mention being an early principal speaker of the UK Green Party. Which hasn’t improved its reputation. Although he wasn’t into lizard people then, he was already a crank into New Age mysticism which unfortunately too often gets conflated with environmentalism.
No two political situations are perfectly analogous but the UK did recently vote for things like Brexit and Boris. Not to mention the outsize presence of trashy tabloids, which have an even more corrosive impact on journalism and public discourse in the UK than they do in the US (we rely on cable news and talk radio for that).
I wouldn’t get too complacent about media figures like Icke even if the vast majority of the population considers him a total nutter.
“Surely it can’t happen here” is such a comforting mindset that it can be difficult to overcome on a fundamental emotional level even if one understands on an academic level that all signs point to “it absolutely can.”
Even now there’s still a big part of my brain trying to convince me that Trump is just an aberration and the United States is too strong to fall into a totalitarian fascist state or a violent civil war.
I’ve been out of the UK for a year and a half now, but I knew a bloke there that was into him. It was weird, The guy was a fellow artist, seemingly a socialist etc - like we had much in common, UNTIL he revealed a rabid affinity for conspiracy nonsense. Personally, I did not find making friends in the UK easy, so I was reluctant to just jettison the guy. Finally, the dude’s coke and alcohol addiction breached the point of diminishing returns. But yeah, British nuttiness seems mostly to manifest in ‘lesser’ forms like crystal worship and ley lines.
And this is the reason he won’t ever get any traction in the UK and why he may have moved his focus to the US in the hope of more fertile ground. Claiming lizard people in human skins are running the world will not get very far in a piss-taking country such as ours and is a project doomed to failure, especially when you accuse Her Maj of being one.
An acquaintance of my wife forwarded Icke’s Covid-19 rambling to her via Facebook, and I walked in on her and found her listening to this guy’s outrageous misstatements. I had not heard anything from this guy in over 20 years, hadn’t heard even his name uttered by anyone I know, or have met, or anywhere in the mainstream or reality-based media. And then as the virus itself, he emerges. Needless to say, the first words that came out of my loud mouth were what a crazy nutter this guy was/is and not to believe a breath of his and to please tune it out. Just unbelievable fringe fiction of the fraying edge kind. Wow, I am a bit relieved to see that everyone here seems to be on the same page, though, more or less.
