beschizza — 2014-07-02T08:50:40-04:00 — #1
clifyt — 2014-07-02T09:40:47-04:00 — #2
This is by and far one of the coolest things Moog has put out in a while. I love their analogue stuff, but the Animoog is of this century, not trapped at the height of technology 30 years ago. I almost picked one of these up, but ended up upgrading another synth instead...I mean, it has keys and everything (and 3x the cost). The Theramin part is awesome, but for most of us it will be a toy that sits on a shelf most of the time. if they only made the Animoog into a standard case, maybe with a ribbon controller in addition to the keys? Would have been no arguing in my mind about the decision.
entity447b — 2014-07-02T09:58:53-04:00 — #3
Ever since I tried on two seperate occasions to build a theremin, failing each time, the lure of just buying one has slowly grown. This only burgeons it further...
morcheeba — 2014-07-02T10:33:24-04:00 — #4
I should sell my old theramin ... I haven't touched it in years!
ben_ehlers — 2014-07-02T11:09:45-04:00 — #5
That's what I love about Animoog. It looks physical, but there would be almost no way to recreate it in a physical form and keep it affordable. The closest thing I can think of would be like a very long kaossilator for the "key bed" (with an embedded custom-made screen underneath to show the key spacing), and an iPad-like-thing for the main screen. Once you add in all the knobs, it would probably cost as much as most houses.
They took the iPad's essential trade-off (a highly responsive multitouch surface AT&T he expense of any physical buttons) and just ran with it.
And now I also need 300 bucks. Excuse me while I rummage around my basement for something to eBay.
clifyt — 2014-07-02T11:53:37-04:00 — #6
I think a ribbon above the keys would work. It would just default to the scale for the ribbon, but the keys would be chromatic. Could PROBABLY do this with a one color LCD. The knobs? This is what Moog is known for!
I've seen a few projects that do this...this is one that I like:
I might have to do so wood work now
israel_b — 2014-07-02T13:21:57-04:00 — #7
Nothing wrong with using both kinds of tools. What they got right 30 years ago need not go to waste. Sometimes I want to poke at a screen but at least as often I like knobs, sliders and keys.
clifyt — 2014-07-02T13:34:16-04:00 — #8
And I have both. However, my softsynths sound almost identical to the hardware ones except for people that are looking for it...and once you put the synth in a mix, there is absolutely nothing that is going to tell someone else if it is hardware or software.
israel_b — 2014-07-02T13:54:03-04:00 — #9
OK but in the ~30 years I've been producing music, no one has ever asked me what tools I used to make a track except some other musician/producers.
clifyt — 2014-07-02T14:16:24-04:00 — #10
That is kinda my point! The listeners don't care, the snobs do!
Then again, my recent ex is a classical player and she is on her annual summer tour. Its funny how she plays a half million dollar instrument, and yet in almost all blind tests, even musicians generally prefer the newer cheaper instruments to the 200 year old ones. However, once you show them the instrument and ask about it, they will be convinced that it is the best one and they can't play without it.
israel_b — 2014-07-02T15:07:30-04:00 — #11
How do you get to talking about snobs here?
clifyt — 2014-07-02T15:38:33-04:00 — #12
I get to talking about snobs because I made a comment about 30 year old technology that you were defending. I had SPECIFICALLY said that I would like Animoog in a device that had hardware -- which one would expect to have knobs as well -- and you made a comment that was going another direction. One could logically conclude you wanted something different than just knobs and hardware and would be on the side of the analog stuff -- or else you wouldn't have been disagreeing with me, but agreeing with me.
So that's how I got to snobs.
israel_b — 2014-07-02T16:01:21-04:00 — #13
All I said was I like to use both. LIke sometimes I'll do a bassline with Animoog or some other soft synth, sometimes with something like the Korg Volca Bass and sometimes with my Fender Jazz. If I feel really daring I might use more than one in the same track
clifyt — 2014-07-02T16:23:35-04:00 — #14
I've wanted to play with the Volcas. They seem like fun toys. Cheap and fun are the two things I love. Do these have CV in or out on them?
That said, I wish I would have bought a J-bass as opposed the the p-bass...the precision is nice, but I've grown to want the jazz sound. If I had one, I'd probably want the other.
albill — 2014-07-02T19:05:01-04:00 — #15
My wife has said to prepare for divorce if I begin playing a theramin.
patrx2 — 2014-07-02T21:33:36-04:00 — #16
You'll have to get a Martenot then, eh?
israel_b — 2014-07-03T02:09:21-04:00 — #17
So far I have the Volca Bass & Beats and I wouldn't call either a toy as both are incredibly expressive. Check out some of the youtube videos to see what I mean. Out of the box, they don't have MIDI OUT or CV but there is an active mod community, see here for extensive mods to the Beats and search on other CV or MIDI mods.
In my youth I played a p-bass, then for a while an Ibanez with active pickups but since I came to really understand bass as part of the rhythm section, I've stuck with the j-bass with flat wound strings. I still have the Ibanez but it is just gathering dust these days.
l_mariachi — 2014-07-06T03:42:30-04:00 — #18
You don’t suppose knowing the exalted and expensive provenance of an instrument might influence how a musician plays it? A Stradivarius might not sound better in a double-blind ABX test performed by a robotic bow, but a human musician will almost certainly approach it very differently than a $200 junior varsity band special from Guitar Center.
beschizza — 2014-07-07T08:50:50-04:00 — #19
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